Firearm BS thread

I just saw a story on a gun maker in California who is trying to sell a refle that the DA says violates the states assault weapons ban.

The article makes it sound like the maker is trying to skirt the law by changing something but I don't understand what exactly was done. Can someone help explain what's going on? please don't start a political debate here. I just want to understand what each side is claiming.

https://www.ocregister.com/2022/02/...t-state-says-are-illegal-assault-weapons/amp/

 

Is anybody here into sporting clays? It's something I've recently gotten into and have been having a helluva good time. I've been using my friend's Benelli but I'd like to consider getting something for myself. Do you guys have any suggestions, preferences, personal favorites? There's a lot of options and I don't have much experience between brands for this. Thanks and hope you're all having a good Sunday.

To be clear I don't want to spend an arm and a leg on the most awesome thing possible for my first buy, but I'm a fairly seasoned shooter overall and would like it to at least be something respectable. Preferably semi-auto.

 

That's gonna be like a "what's the best oil" thread.

I upland/waterfowl hunt a lot and prefer an O/U. I'm a long time Beretta user. Shoot skeet and sporting clays as practice.

 

And this is where I get lost lol. I have some friends that are pretty active bird hunters, and they all use O/Us and have invited me to come along, but most of the time I'd probably be going to this particular clays range with my buddy and they're all using sporting semi-autos. Been a long, long time since I was shooting shotguns like this so I'm not sure where to begin or what would be ideal.

 

I do have a Benelli M2 and a Beretta A400 Lite (both in 20G). They're both smooth with minimal felt recoil.

 

The difference is where the trigger sticks out of the lower is lower on the modified version, which means it no longer meets Cali’s definition of “assault weapon”.

 

Do those come in 12 gauge? And what kind of price range are we talking?

 

Both should be available in 12. I'm not sure what current prices are. I'd guess about $1200-$1400.

 

Probably the limit of what I'm looking to spend. Ideally closer to $1000 if possible.

 

Id find something your comfortable with.
The rest will fall into place with practice.


Been using a Beretta AL390 since 2006ish.
Eats everything I have fed it.
Believe it was $500 or so back then.

 

I was in the same place as you. Researched a bit and ended up with a Beretta A300 outlander sporting 12ga. Has been a great entry level shotgun made for sporting clays and comes in under $1000.

 

This seems in the ballpark of what I think I'm looking for.

 

Right, it was only $30 and 4 hours including the range time. It would be dirt cheap if it's wasn't for ammo being expensive, but I don't have a problem brushing up on the laws and showing I can safely operate a pistol. There where some people there renewing that could barely get on paper. So a good indicator it was time for some practice. This class even motivated me to get out a practice more.

 

Michigan has not be allowing CPL's for very long I think 2002. We do honor other states CPLs so that's good. It was $115 for me to renew that went to the State Police and then $30 for the class not including ammo. You basically just have to sit there and a lawyer goes through all out laws. It was to bad. I like the self defense shooting class at the end. Gonna take more of those now since this is a new range it very close to me.

 

Something about pistol grip I guess.

 

over under if you want to have the option of 2 different chokes (close shot / far shot) , autoloader if 1 choke will suit your fancy. use whatever you can shoulder consistently and shoot best with.

 

I think for now an autoloader would be best for me. A lot of spots on the course we run are 2+1 clays. I've tried everyone's shotgun in our group, but use my buddy's Benelli the most because I think it has the best trigger and cycles the smoothest. I'm just not sure I want to spend Benelli prices for my first sporting shotgun, but it does handle nicely to say the least.

 

Buy once....cry once.

 

True words, but I also like to tinker with most of my guns, so I'd probably upgrade the furniture, trigger group, springs, etc. I'd imagine I could turn a more budget-friendly gun into a fairly respectable shooter and still have money to spare compared to a Benelli. Or maybe not?