Firearm BS thread

10mm as a back up for boars!

 

How is she planning to carry? On the body or in a purse? Reason I ask: I see girls get little subcompact guns all the time and I then either carry in a purse that has plenty of room for a bigger gun or leave it at hone cause they really don't feel comfortable with it.

Little guns are hard to shoot well. The light weight makes them snappy, little frames are hard to get a proper grip on and the short sight radius makes for an awkward sight picture. Yet these tend to be the guns that women gravitate to and we tend to encourage.

If she's not going to be carrying on the body I would encourage you to look at something in the compact sizes vs the subcompact. The pistols you're looking at are both fine guns. But they are a challenge even in experienced and competent hands.

You can sit there and shoot the X out of a target with anything, but when the shot tempo increases you notice a real handycap with a subcompact. Most fights don't end with a single hit. Let's face it, handguns suck at killing things. It takes multiple hits, hopefully in quick succession to stop an someone. That is not a place where subcompacts really shine.

Just my opinion and its worth what you paid for it.

 

It'll do it. I'd take a Glock 20 over almost any other handgun in that role.

 

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Anyone have a Beretta M9 or 92FS? I picked up a clean example for a decent price and ran some bimart ammo through it. It didn't group very tight. I used hornady critical defense 9mm 115 grainers and they were all over the place. 5" group at 25 yards off a rest (well the hood of the taco). What off the shelf ammo groups tightest in them? I packed one around in the Army for years and always cussed them. The only good thing I had to say about them was they always went bang... but I blamed the accuracy issues on the ammo. Figured that long of a barrel would shoot well with decent pills. Guess not.

 

She's gonna carry on her person or in the car majority of the time unless at home but there's a mosberg for the house and a 30/6 lol. But I shot the little 9mm shield and wasn't bad for a sub compact. At 25ft had a baseball pattern. I just have bigger hands so the grip isn't to comfortable to me. But I'm looking at a 9mm XDM 9mm compact with 3.8 inch barrel and getting the extended mag with about an extra inch of grip. So no complaints from shooting bout 200 rounds through them. Looked at a few full size glocks and berettas but a bit to big for a concealed carry imo.

 

My girlfriend likes shooting my G19 over my Shield 9mm, mainly I think due to the reduced recoil.

 

Mine's the same way with the same guns. The added mass is noticeable when you go from one right to the other. She won't even shoot my Bodyguard even though it's just a .380; it's such a small frame that shooting it hurts her hands.

 

My wife likes the manual safety so there's no glock that'll work for her and vast majority of newer guns so I'm kinda limited lol.

 

Do you know anyone with a S&W M&P Compact? About the same dimensions as the G19, and it's available with the standard M&P manual thumb safety.

 

Any idea how much you're going to be stationed in CA?

Once you get out, there are literally 1 million more guns you can buy if you move to a free state.

 

Taurus PT709 has a manual safety iirc. I had the 740 and it was pretty snappy but might not be so bad in a 9mm

 

Ruger loves putting a safety on their guns, maybe look into those?

 

Have her shoot a RUger SR9c. Barely smaller that a G19, manual safety, good trigger, dependable gun. Walther PPQ, FN FNS-9 are good options too.

 

Training with a handgun w/o a manual safety w/an open mind is the solution.

 

Seconded

 

XD/XDm has a grip safety. M&PS are available with a thumb safety

 

I like the grip safety and am fine with no safety it's just kinda what she feels more comfortable with. No idk anyone who owns either we went to a indoor gun range put a few hundred rounds down range through 8 different 9mms from glocks, s&m, rugger, Walters beretta, and spingfield..... W/o safetys, trigger safetys, manual safetys, and grip safetys. Out of all of them she still preferred manual safetys. So in that case I'd rather her have whatever she feels most comfortable with especially in an instance if shit were to get real lol.


And I'm already out of California never want to see it again just took 30 days leave to pcs from coast to coast.

Tried the Walters pk380 and I liked the gun except the break down to clean it was weird and she had it stove pipe on her a few times a was dumbfounded on what to do in that instance. Which better ammo would have helped on it and her keeping her wrist and elbow tight.


The XDM would be for me haha.

Thanks for the info. Have to wait on the house to close to actually have a physical addy.

 

Don't you need to have 3 consecutive months worth of bills? I had to do everything you listed along with showing 3 consecutive months of a bill to buy a gun here, but that was on base. I'm not going anywhere anytime soon so after I bought that gun I went and got a local ID.