Firearm BS thread

Does that scope have a zero stop?

 

After you get it zeroed you take the elevation knob off and put some shims in there that will stop the knob from turning past 0 (or whatever you set it at).

 

I read in an article, years ago, that mentioned research conducted by insurance company shows that alcoholism rates more than tripled during Prohibition. I believe it because I don't like Prohibition.

 

Howdy folks, I haven't posted on this thread in a while but just wanted to share a little something something that I just recently got.



In 6.5 Creedmoor

 

Back in the 20's it worked so well that after just 13 years that we decided we didn't need it any more!

 

I have been a pro-gun person all my life Adult life. I was introduced to them at 5 or 6 years of age BB guns under the extremely strict watch of Uncles or my Dad. Coming from a Family of Law Enforcement/Military there was no talks when you abused the use of the gun it was a ass beating 60's early 70's and no more use for several days or until you understood what you did wrong.

The biggest component of the Gun Control debate is whether existing gun laws are sufficient, or whether more gun laws are needed. Populists will generally favor more restrictions on ownership while paying lip-service "sportsmen's rights" or respecting "the right of self-protection." A moderate compromise is to "extend waiting periods" before allowing ownership, to perform "background checks" of varying degrees of severity that is screamed about all the time. Some populists even generally favor more gun laws. Look for buzzwords like "more registration" or "more licensing" to describe seeking further restrictions legal ownership; or "close the loopholes" and "restrict access" for further restrictions on illegal ownership. The "Gun-Show Loophole" means that there are no background checks when purchasing guns in a private transaction which I think is a bad idea.

Some of the restrictions that have been proposed or enacted into law include background checks and waiting periods for individuals who want to purchase a firearm. If that person has demonstrated responsible ownership by meeting requirements set forth by States then we need not worry about waiting periods and such then again what are they that will make everyone happy? The political and social debate over the question of how much gun control is appropriate has been an extremely polarized one for several decades. Then you have the push to incorporate mental-health criteria into the existing law regarding who can and cannot own guns that in it self is another can of cluster fuck madness. Then you have parties saying things are way out of balance.

Conservatives and libertarians generally oppose gun laws. Look for buzzwords like "Second Amendment rights" or "allow concealed carry". A call for "instant background checks" pays lip-service to gun-control advocates: it sounds like a restriction, but means allowing purchasing guns on the spot so where do we find that middle on the right Legislation to make everyone happy without taking away the freedoms we now have?

Most discussions on gun control often focus on the “D.C. handgun ban” because Congress has direct control over the gun laws of the District of Columbia. One such law was at issue in the Heller case. Heller refers to a ruling on the issue of “individual rights”. The Supreme Court ruled, in the 2008 case called “District of Columbia v. Heller”, that the 2nd Amendment does define an individual right to gun ownership, as opposed to a “collective right” for a state-run and state-armed National Guard. Some like to argue that the Supreme Court case ruled in 1939, in a case called "US v. Miller," that the 2nd amendment only protects guns suitable for a well-regulated militia -- for example, sawed-off shotguns can be banned because they're not "ordinary military equipment" so does this mean that AR's cant be banned since they are "ordinary military equipment"?

JMO........

 

What kills me about the 'debate' (I use that term loosely) is that so much of the rhetoric that's flying around isn't fact-based. It comes from both sides, but it seems like a lot of the people pushing for more laws and more regulations are basing their arguments on false information, like AR's being capable of firing 700 rounds a minute, that anybody can go to a gun show and buy a gun without a background check, etc. I see wrong information being tossed around by the pro-gun side as well, but I see a lot more of it coming from the pro-control side. And a lot of it seems like willful ignorance, which drives me absolutely bonkers.

As an example, friend of mine was spouting about the gun show thing this weekend, that dealers would sell to anyone because they had a 'get out of jail free' card. I offered to take him to any gun show anywhere in the state and he could try to buy a gun from a dealer, and if they didn't make him go through a background check that I'd pay for his gun. He's a gun guy, loves to hunt, but he didn't want to hear any of it. It's frustrating.

 

You mean!! gun free zones don't work ???????

 

And if more people consciously carried, there wouldn't be 50 dead in a nightclub!!!!!

 

All of the rhetoric is why we can't get reasonable legislation that will make sense through Congress and we get knee jerk legislation shoved down out throats that does nothing but piss off everyone and continues to dived .....

 

Nope and never will.

 

Come to think about it this is the same conversation I have with my brother many times over when shootings occur and I have yet to talk to him since the Newtown shooting. And whats frustrating on top of that is he let's this shit get in the way of our relationship as brothers which drives me absolutely bonkers. He just cant have a fucking reasonable conversation on other peoples views. And by the way he HATES that I own guns and wont set foot in my house if he ever comes back around.....

2 Thanksgivings ago he and his wife sat across the table during dinner and he would NOT look me in the eye during dinner or talk to me at all during the day. If he ever knew that I boned his wife 1 year before they started dating I might be responsible for a divorce.

 

Not trying to start anything but background checks are not required at gun shows in the majority of states. Went with my buddy to a show here in MO a couple of weeks ago and he walked out with an AK and 1000 rounds no questions asked other than do you have enough money.

 

Then I would say that he bought from a private seller who had a table at said gun show. Federal law requires a gun dealer to run a background check on any gun sale from their stock, regardless of the location the sale takes place in.
If sold by a private seller in a state that doesn't require BGC's for private sales, they're not required to run a BGC, same as if it was in their back yard.

 

Federal law requires that persons who are engaged in the business of dealing in firearms be licensed by the federal government.Though this exception is often referred to as the "gun show loophole," it actually applies more broadly to unlicensed individuals, whether they are selling at a gun show or somewhere else. The Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act of 1993 (Brady Act) requires federally licensed firearms dealers (FFLs) to perform background checks on prospective firearms purchasers to ensure that the firearm transfer would not violate federal, state or local law.

Must have been a private sale.

 

The complete misconception of this and the rhetoric is what hurts the law abiding citizens when it comes to firearms in this country......

This is way we will never be able to get anything accomplished when it comes to guns in America till they are confiscated...

I do have to say that I had the best experience with Law Enforcement when being pulled over 2 weeks ago. Yes I was breaking the law by speeding and a rolling stop and failure to signal. So that being said when the officer came up to the truck I had all windows rolled down and my hands in plain sight.In Va if you have a CCP it's pops up when they run your tag. Officer comes up staying behind the rear doors of the truck and asks if I have any firearms in the truck I then say ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah!! he goes that was a convincing answer,I said yes Sir it is since I have suppressors and guns on the back floor board he steps up and looks in the back then he asks me to step out and I do....

He asks do you know why I pulled you over and I said I have a clue because my head was up my ass from the excitement I was going to have with my guns would you like to join me? He laughed ran my DL and checked to make sure I was legal with Title II firearms. He told me to not get to excited and have a great day getting excited in the correct places.

 

That is half true, half misleading lie often repeated. Any FFL dealer has to do a background check whether he sells to you in a store or a gun show. There are plenty of dealers at shows doing background checks. Many states allow private individuals to sell a firearm to another individual without doing a background check. If I decide I want to sell my collection, I can get a table at a gunshow and sell without background checks because I am not in the business of selling guns and they are my personal guns. No different than if I sold a gun in my home to another person.

So yes, in some cases, background checks are not required when buying a gun. The fact it may be at a gun show has nothing to do with it.


**Just wanted to edit this and say I don't mean to insinuate you are trying pass off a lie. Many people take it as fact since those with an agenda are the ones constantly pushing this idea. I hear the same thing about buying guns over the internet too. Yeah, I've bought a lot over the internet and I've had to do a background check on every one, but you wouldn't think that listening to the media.

 

Jealous that you americans are allowed suppressors

 

If they could only vote on a single bill with no amendments attached or vs versa things might change for the better....