Firearm BS thread

Picked up a Vortex Sparc II red dot yesterday. Haven't got to use it a the range yet, but I like it so far.

 

@outdoorAZ if it's your first long rifle then yes look at getting a 308 or even a 556, you'll learn a crapton about reading wind shooting at longer distances.

The 3Win will beat you up is a bit of a misnomer,.. it all depends how it's setup.
As a light weight field/mountain hunting rifle, sure enough it's not gonna be pleasant.



Q: What is the result of pulling the trigger and sending a round down range?
A: Recoil! Mr Newton's 3rd law
Q: What can be done about recoil?
A: Three solutions, 1 nothing learn to ride it, 2 don't pull the trigger, 3 build a rifle the doesn't kick the crap outta yah

See Solution #3
As a precision rifle with a heavier barrel, precision optic, stock, etc adds weight, that will help dissipate the recoil.
I'd shoot this here all day, but it will cost more to feed than the 308 or 556



$0.02

 

@Noelie84 @95 taco @P2W

Thanks for the advice guys. It sounds like I should just buy a scope for my AR15 and start shooting further with that for now.

I shoot plenty of 12guage so I'm not too worried about developing a flinch.

I just had the opportunity to trade for that rifle and I wasn't really sure if I should or not.

 

Anyone shoot a Glock 17"M" ? Thoughts? Why the change of rifling ?

 

Haven't shot one and I rarely shoot glocks, hell I haven't even seen the new glock except in pictures.
I believe the change in rifling was to be able to safely shoot cast lead bullets, I have also heard one person say that another reason for the rifling change was it would make it easier to identify individual weapons with ballistics matching, no clue on how true that statement is.

 

Did a few mods tonight to the 870 express we picked up last week!

 

FYI, the new 17 M is being recalled by police department, this is a direct quote from that write up




The Firearm Blog’s source within the department declined to be named and only spoke on the condition of anonymity about the problems. Our source stated that the slides were falling off during dry fire training due to a potential issue with the recoil springassembly and/or the slide lock.


Unfortunately, this is the only thing I have heard about the new 17 M

 

Not exactly something I'd want to have happen in SHTF situation.

 

For sure!
I'm sure they'll figure it out

 

"Ermahgerd, a zombie!"
"Don't worry, I've got this!" *ker-klunk* "....shit"

 

took this thing out to get it zero-ed

range here only goes out to 100 yards so I had to zero to that but goddamn this thing's awesome to shoot. got overlapping groups out of it


had to set up a few stall away from other people because of how brutal the muzzle brake handles the boom though

 

Mounted my vortex today, very happy with it, definitely the best optic I've used yet.
Got it mounted up and then took it outside a little to look through it about a half hour after sunset, on the highest magnification I could clearly see a speed limit sign ~175 yards away.

 

I've got a vortex strikefire 3x on an AR and a crossfire on a .22lr. Wouldn't hesitate to put another vortex on any sort of rifle, they have been nothing but great in my experience and have an outstanding warranty which I hope to never have to use.

 

I'm happy with my Vortex PST, recently moved it to my DMR, one thing to keep an eye on though is the windage knob. Mine has this strange habit of self adjusting, 1/2-1mil of incorrect wind at 600yd will make for an unpleasant day.

 

vortex makes good products!

 

But how are these sopes out to 1000 yards/1500 yards. The fellow made the statement about being able to see the speed sign at 175 yards. In my experience, basically any scope will do THAT!
I'm not saying anything bad about Vortex scopes, but how are they out at far far distances ?

 

I dont shoot that far out but I have a 400yd target I shoot at and its clear and I can hit the 10" gong no problem. I would be willing to bet the top of the line vortex hold up just as good as any other optics for your 1000/1500yds...

 

I've run the 4-16 PST out to 1050, you can't count the hairs on a knat's ass but you can id what your shootin at. It really depends on the lighting, the 6-24 PST has better clarity, but still it is nowhere near my USO 3-17. The USO allow me to follow trace into the target out to 975 as well as clarity in lowlight the Vortex can't keep up. The Vortex PST is a good entry level scope in the precision shooting class of scopes, it returns to zero, tracks well and has decent clarity. My 4-16 PST is 7yrs old and on the second rifle and it gets used roughly (compared to how other folks use their stuff) my AR get about 1000 - 1200 rounds through it / year.

If you're looking to shoot out to 1000+ yards on a regular basis you should look into the Vortex Razor.

 

I'll keep an eye on that, thanks for the heads up.

I've read good things, no personal experience because there's nowhere to shoot that range around here.
My nikon prostaff was not able to clearly see the sign with the same conditions.

 

That's my point, in comparing it to other models of the same price Point and ability, how do they stack up?