Firearm BS thread

What really impresses me is how much optics have improved. A 400 dollar SWFA 10x is superior to $1k+ unit from the 80's

Edit: I should leave elephants alone

 

Right? Until 6 or 8 years ago, I lived by the age old mantra of “Whatever you paid for the rifle, you pay the same for the optics”. That always held true for US/European built optics. A $200 scope was what you’d put on the 10/22, you were giving to your son or nephew. Once the Asians figured out how to build optics, prices fell through the floor (just like everything else).

I still run US made Trijicon and Leupold on the boom sticks I need to count on. Objectively, the functional difference between the higher-end US glass and the $200-$300 chinesium, is barely noticeable to my eye. Can’t comment on actual durability and ruggedness of the chicom stuff, as I haven’t needed to physically mistreat a rifle in many moons. However, paying 3x-4x for something I know will take a beating if needed...buy once, cry once.

 

Do you have the factory bolt in the 1022

 

Yep, factory bolt (less than 100 rounds through it) and Kidd bolt handle wit stock power spring, I may have to go with the 10% lighter spring even though I’m running suppressed.

 

Ill say after getting my holosun put on my ar15 that i really like it. Got it dialed in at 100 yards and i like being able to switch through 3 reticles

 

I run my suppressed but i had to polish/ modify the bolt. Plenty of videos on that. Also i run one of those rubberish bolt buffers which cuts out a ton of bolt noise

 

Ill have to check out the polishing!
I have one of those also, it is very quiet.
I got a short video of it running.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8U-N9uDYJL/?igshid=627iwzlrjjmi

 

That’s because the US companies you are referring to still get their glass from Asia. Occasionally Europe on higher lines. They are not really US made, they are in house, US assembled. There is a difference. Leupolds higher line ups like the MK5 has better glass that comes from Europe. I don’t know a single scope company that uses American made glass. I do know that schott has US factories but is that really US made?
The difference in scopes are design, materials, and the biggest part, quality control. It’s what separates a $400 to a $4000 scope.

 

Can’t say this surprises me, and I should’ve expected as much.

 

Thinking of selling my P320 full size and my XDs 9 to fund another fullsize gun, thinking either a CZ, M&P CORE performance center 5" model, or a P320 X-5 legion.

Thoughts?

 

Personally? A CZ-75 is an awesome pistol, and I don’t think you’d go wrong with it. I’ve heard lots of good with P320 X5 Legion, but haven’t shot one yet. Don’t know anything about that M&P.

Edit: be prepared to get hosed on the XDS. They’re hard to give away right now.

 

I have a gentleman who is semi-local that's offered me the opportunity to shoot his M9A3 and SP01 Omega, I've never shot a CZ handgun so I'm interested in how it shoots, unfortunately I don't believe the CZ 75's are red dot compatible.

I figured it might be difficult to get rid of, I think I should be able to sell it locally for a decent price.

 

just sold two, a XD 45 essential and a XD ( compact) and got a good price for them...………...

 

With my spare mags (6 I think), holsters, mag carrier, and box I think I can get over $450 for the used gun, I’d call it good.

 

Can any tell me about a Smith and Wesson model 41?

 

To what end? I have personal experience with the CORE and some CZ and both are fantastic. Are you thinking of getting into IDPA/USPSA?

 

Unfortunately I’m of no assistance to you.

If I went to compete it would be USPSA and/or 3 gun, mainly I want to experience shooting a dot equipped, ported handgun for shooting drills to see how much it makes a difference and to vary my collection.

My duty weapon is a stock gen 1 M&P 40 and I got a spare slide from a guy and had it cut for an RMR and got a threaded 9mm barrel to run it suppressed and it’s really fun to shoot, but it’s a pain to switch configurations and while I don’t hate the stock trigger I can feel the room for improvement shooting nicer triggers in my AR, 10/22, and polymer 80 faux 19 build.

 

That’s an excellent price! If you can get that, do it!

I got less than $300 out of an XDS 40 bi-tone, that had less than 200 rounds through it and looked perfect, with original box etc.

 

The only thing that people knock on CZ about is since the slide rides in the frame, the amount of real estate up grip the slide is less than if it rode on the outside.

Other than that they are awesome firearms.

 

The CORE and X-5 both sound like good candidates. In that space the X5 makes more sense to me, the X5's tungsten infused grip giving it insanely high weight for a poly frame gun. The CORE is good, but being a standard poly frame it's only like 30 oz, vs the 43ish of the X5.

The other potential options there are the CZ SP01 or Shadow 2, both of which can make CO weight with optics by being sent off to Primary Machine or another milling company. A Cajunized Shadow 2 with PM milling for the optic would be the ultimate run-fast gun IMO, so long as you are willing to learn to run the safety by instinct.

If you want a gun that can do the ported space and the competition space, my buddy has a 5" M&P 2.0 with a 1.0 slide stop and ported 1.0 CORE slide+barrel, with a dot on top and he uses the non-ported barrel for competition where it's illegal to run a ported slide. That gun with the Apex trigger work is absolutely flat on firing, you never notice the weight deficit as it's snappier but flatter shooting with the ported barrel when compared to a non-ported metal frame gun. With the standard barrel it's on par with any other long slide standard poly frame like a G34, XDM, etc. It strikes me as the best combo to run where you want to switch between ported or competition with just a barrel change, but it's not cheap to put together and I've not run it next to something on the tier of a well-tuned S2 for comparison.