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First gen. steering wheel play

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by rab89, Mar 20, 2010.

  1. May 12, 2010 at 12:10 PM
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    tricky as in how?
     
  2. May 12, 2010 at 12:18 PM
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    Kinda hard to explain but I found the center bolt area was tricky to get back in place as well as the location on the drivers side. The new bushing makes where it mounts a little tight so I used a big C clamp between the rack and the crossmember to draw it into place.

    Also, that center nut is welded to the frame so don't try and take it off like I did lol. loosen the bolt from the top but not so much that you can't get the ratchet out. You'll see what I'm saying when you do it.
     
  3. May 12, 2010 at 12:19 PM
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    My Taco wonders a bit to the left on the hwy :mad:
     
  4. May 12, 2010 at 12:52 PM
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    just do a search for this and use the write up. the one i used has pics and everythng. so pretty much a step by step. but wrestling the rack back into place is the toughest part. good luck
     
  5. May 12, 2010 at 12:56 PM
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  6. May 12, 2010 at 12:56 PM
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    oh yeah and be sure to have a torque wrech with a long handle , ur gonna need it because the ft. lbs. on the bolts are really high. imo
     
  7. May 12, 2010 at 12:58 PM
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    I just used a long breaker bar to tighten. Yes the torque is kinda high
     
  8. May 12, 2010 at 1:25 PM
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    thanks guys - the shop wanted $475 to do it...just bought the bushings for $23...i think the only other thing i need is a 22mm socket...so yea!
     
  9. May 12, 2010 at 1:38 PM
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    Go for it!
     
  10. May 13, 2010 at 1:08 PM
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    x2:popcorn:
     
  11. Jul 22, 2010 at 6:40 PM
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    Never ending...
    I have the same steering wheel play problem on my 2004 Regular Cab. On the highway, my truck often wanders from side to side, and off road, it rattles very noticeably when rolling over small bumps. Have been doing some searching and found a thread that seems to have the real answer. Apparently this is a common problem and there is an easy fix. Here's a link to the first page of the thread, but they don't track down the source of the problem until a few pages later so keep reading... there is a lot of good info here:

    http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11145

    If the link doesn't work, the thread is titled "Clunking steering column/shaft?" at TTORA.

    People reported having replaced racks and entire steering columns only to have the problem come back after some time. Again, read this thread linked to above for much more detailed information, but in a nutshell, all that has to be done to permanently fix the problem is pull the upper shaft assembly out (only takes a few minutes), do a quick tack weld (or install a roll pin), put it back together, and problem solved.

    Several others reported that this completely took care of the problem after having put up with the steering rattle for years. The fix makes perfect sense and was diagnosed by a Toyota technician (screen name Gunny at TTORA) on his own truck. Other posters had very good info to add also. Check it out!
     
  12. Aug 2, 2010 at 7:07 PM
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    EVERYONE!!!! I just fixed my clunk!!!!!

    HERE IS THE THREAD! it's a lot easier than it looks, i did it today, and it eliminated all of the clunking when I go offroad and the wandering on the highway. DOO IT!
     
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    maybe we can sticky this or something, it fixed everything for me!
     
  14. Aug 4, 2016 at 8:54 PM
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    Old Thread, I know, but figure updating this for anyone else in similar situation would be nice.

    Thanks to rab89 and rout1286 for posting those links up with all the pictures, I was able to take a short cut route without taking much off. Took me about 2 hours or so, If i were to do it again, would take half that time.

    -Just remove the column cover, lower dash panel and side kicker panel.
    -Unplug the wiring and move out of way.
    -Unbolt the two 6mm hex/allen bolts on the upper steering wheel joint (left and right side) and unbolt at the very bottom where the lower u joint is from the firewall (be sure to make a mark with a sharpy as this will act as your alignment for reassembly).
    -Remove the two main springs on top.
    -Option if you want to remove the two smaller springs for the tilt feature of your steering wheel. I did so the wheel wouldnt lock up when tilted.
    -After all of the above, pull the steering wheel out and the column shaft will follow.

    -Just word of advice, when reassembling, be sure to get the lower ujoint put together first before bolting the upper steering wheel joint.

    I dont have pictures, step by step, but I did take pictures while working on it. Refer to the above links in the previous posts for detailed pics of what im talking about if your not sure.
    Steering wheel and column shaft out.
    IMG_1382_zpswchd1yge_bdb9897dbe526f44cfd5a2c7b6d516587dc3d666.jpg
    IMG_1383_zpst4a9sfrn_9c9cd7dcd1570fb78d948137b38f38c1f4c217b9.jpg

    This is where the left and right free play in the steering wheel occurs at, like others mentioned, either weld it or put a pin through it.
    IMG_1387_zps2nffcutp_5bde40311b87cbf3fffd7d82e260086560bb05dc.jpg

    I have a Tig welder, so I Tig welded a couple of good tacks on.
    IMG_1388_zpseusrexec_3531c0e0a25a8927f202e0130174a4a282d4907c.jpg
    IMG_1389_zpsrz2wykml_0293f1b0f6f97060899801063deec13613379af9.jpg
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    IMG_1390_zpst23osgau_c4fa4f9d094e2659904e0c2ca17d14b41b05ddc0.jpg

    Pictures of the of driver side dash area with wheel removed.
    IMG_1385_zpsaecsciln_d56419f571a990159189071b7ab1631c3f933a6c.jpg
    IMG_1386_zpso4ipx2hj_26be35962f2519f6b8d78eefbaab25bced03632b.jpg
    IMG_1384_zpsnjlybofl_a969cf9837dc07249f83f27b47efc85e1e6c207e.jpg

    Also in case your wondering, before I did this tonight, I had replaced my rack bushings with Energy bushings, replaced inner and outer tie rods and still had the excess steering wheel movement. After doing what I did tonight, no free play/excess steering wheel movement what so ever. Steering wheel feel is nice and crisp. Actually turns the truck left and right with the slightest touch.

    Hope this helps.
     
  15. Aug 4, 2016 at 10:48 PM
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    Yep did this a while back myself and made a big difference. I didn't have any play except a previous repair which was the rack bushings. But still had the notorious 'clackity' steering wheel when offroading. But it did make the steering more responsive too on the road with the slightest movement like you said. Definitely a worth while 'mod'. Which should be made into a separate thread itself and stickied if you ask me.
     
  16. Aug 5, 2016 at 10:58 PM
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    Mine has 150,000 and no steering problems so far. I did replace the rack bushings with Energy suspension a while back but it really didn't need it. They were just slightly loose. It's been "mildly" off roaded fairly regularly since it was new. Not constantly though. It's gotten most of it's abuse since I bought it from my dad who "babied" it and I don't "thrash" it at all although it does see a lot of dirt roads. At very s,ow speed under 20 mph.

    How are you using your truck?
     
  17. Apr 4, 2018 at 9:00 AM
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    Thread revive but I did this a week ago and it fixed my steering wheel play and highway wondering. It also fixed my steering wheel rattling when on gravel roads
     
  18. Apr 4, 2018 at 11:15 AM
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    Did you end up using the spot weld method?
     
  19. Apr 4, 2018 at 12:55 PM
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    Yeah, ended up putting on 3 tack welds.
     
  20. Apr 4, 2018 at 3:29 PM
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    Do the tack weld fix and you will love your life.
     

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