First oil change

Modern engines filter all the byproducts back through the oil. The oil filter gets dirty rather quickly. Most oil filters are only designed for contaminants down to 10 microns. All the contaminants from 0 to 10 microns are not picked up by the filter and continously fed back through your engine. Change oil frequently if you want you engine to last beyond 100k mi.

 

Hey bdkjones! Thanks for that info! I appreciate everyone's opinions, but opinions backed up by data have a bit more value.

Good to know that Bobstheoilguy likes the FRAM Synth Endurance filters. I have avoided all FRAM products (prefer Wix) based on that site's analysis many years ago. And I see why the Toyota branded filters are cheap. They are tiny!

I like the interval, the filter recommendation, and I'll probably stick with Mobile1 since I can get it at the Costco 2 miles from my house. I am good, and I have a plan. I just picked up the truck yesterday, so now I have bigger fish to fry - like figuring out that big, 14 inch infotainment system. Yikes!

 

I did my first change at 515 miles after watching an Oil Geek video. I ran my oil through a coffee filter and took a picture. There was some debris I was able to get out. I plan to do another change at 1,500 miles just to get anything I can out, then every 5,000 miles. I used a Toyota filter and Toyota oil I picked up from the dealership the day I bought the truck.

 

Does anyone know if Toyota puts high zinc breakin oil in a new engine and has confirmed it
Thru a blackstone oil test ?

If so, then you would want the same to continue for awhile anyway right, or maybe not ?

 

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I'm old school and with that said respect others' opinions and actions on interval for OC.
What's interesting is am a long-time member of 4Runner, Tundra and Mustang forum.
All have same threads and same comments

This is general interval I follow

• First Change at 500 Miles. Obtain Oil analysis. Will also cut open and inspect filter.
• Second Change at 2500 miles
• Third Change at 5000 miles
• Change interval at this point every 5000 miles which for me is twice a year based on annual driven miles.

 

Used to have a 2009 WRX. Was part of a TSB of spun rods from metal debris in the block. I drained early, 1k, and used the best AmsOil Syn. I held the record in NASIOC forums for most miles driven before spun rod, it’s a terrible feeling when it happens btw.

Dealer replaced the long block, spun again soon after because debris from all the areas other than the new block got recirculated into the replacement. Another one.

After that drama, I’ve been paranoid about turbos + dirty oil/debris/metal.

I believe this is the first time Toyota introduced an OE turbo to the Tacoma. From what I learned in my Subie days, turbos love clean oil and frequent changes. I believe the Subie WRX dealer recommended frequency was 7500 miles, splitting the difference between 5k and 10k.

Also, Toyota Synthetic Blend the dealer may use is not on par with synthetics like premium AMSoil or Mobil EP etc. I don’t trust 10k on dealer oil with a turbo. Maybe 10k on the best group IV or V synthetic and larger OEM can filter.

IMHO, us Tacoma peeps are not familiar with the turbo nuances as much. One issue being 10k intervals are kosher on conventional or blended oil. Another issue could be using aftermarket filters with drain back valves not in Toyota spec.

Long winded explanation for turbos. But, they def are more sensitive to oil hygiene than NA, especially since you can practically run 3rd and older Tacomas dry and they still run well. Now with a snail, things are gonna change.

 

For what it's worth, this isn't Toyota's first rodeo in regards to turbocharged engines. I doubt their planning or engineering prowess is going to be the weak link. I do, however, agree that if anything kills these motors, it's going to be people running way over on maintenance intervals. You're right that motors with spinny bois are quite a bit crankier in regards to lubricant condition than your average naturally aspirated Chevy 3800 V6. While I'm not expecting people to have motors blowing up left and right, I do wonder how your average owner's going to be doing come 150k.

The thing I do find kind of interesting is that they don't specify in the manual that the oil you use synthetic oil. Maybe they actually do and just left it out of the manual, but the fact that they don't is a little spooky. I thought that manufacturers have stopped allowing conventional engine oil at all at this point. I didn't even know you could get semisynthetic 0W-20 until I googled it just now; I thought it was only available as a full synthetic. You know there's going to be goofballs grabbing the cheaper stuff off the shelf to save a couple bucks and even more goofballs taking their trucks to quick-lube places and ending up with whatever swill they have in their bulk dispensers. It probably won't be full synthetic unless you specifically ask and consent to an upcharge. Hell, I'd worry it was even 0W20.

All that said, we all seem to be on the same page with the change intervals; early and often, probably twice as often as Toyota says to. If anybody's going to have lubricant quality driven failures, it ain't gunna be us.