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Fish and Game Wardens

Discussion in 'Law Enforcement Officers' started by sammy87, Mar 20, 2012.

  1. Mar 20, 2012 at 4:10 PM
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    sammy87

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    Anyone have any insight into the hiring process? Typical requirements ect....Im looking for a career change and always thought this would be interesting. Just dont know much about it.

    Thanks!
     
  2. Mar 23, 2012 at 6:16 PM
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    I don't have any advice for you, but that would be a cool profession! :cool:
     
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    OP what kind of education do you have/ previous work exp?
     
  6. Mar 23, 2012 at 6:37 PM
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    It varies by state, but most require a BS in Wildlife or closely related degree. Some states will consider other degrees in combination with experience. Obviously prior law enforcement would be a big plus.

    In Montana one of the best ways to break-in is through our Trainee program- it's a competitive selection amongst Juniors (in state college) and if your selected you work (w/ pay :)) during the summer between your Jr and Sr year and then on weekends and holidays during your Sr year. If you have what it takes, then your usually hired full time right out of college.

    BTW we currently are running a general hire as we speak (close 3/30) :D

    https://svc.mt.gov/statejobsearch/listingdetails.aspx?id=7115
     
  7. Mar 23, 2012 at 6:47 PM
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    I'm a poli sci major which isn't really related, but former USAF officer I thought might help. Most recent work exp is project manager for construction. I always thought this would be a cool line of LEO to be involved with. I've heard of guys that can only get PT positions with local forces that have criminal justice backgrounds so I didnt know if this was something even more difficult. At this point I just really want to learn more and what you need to get in.

    Thanks!
     
  8. Mar 23, 2012 at 6:54 PM
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    Always thought this would be bad ass.
     
  9. Mar 23, 2012 at 6:59 PM
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    ^ military experience will definitely help, you'd probably have to pursue a different path with your education (at a minimum a minor in something in the biology field)
     
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    What I would do is get your associates in Natural Resource conservation. Its tough getting a job as a warden. My dad almost did it several times and he said that the market was always tough. The most bad ass part imo is that you can take more from anyone person then any other law enforcement officer can. Secondly you could always start off working something more basic such as at a fish hatchery for exp too.
     
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    A hatchery job and a Warden's job are hardly related at all. I've worked with and for Fish and Wildlife agencies as a biologist. Many Wardens are friendly and will support your work. Some will even let people know about what you are doing in the area and why, say, you can net fish or bats and they can't. However, they are first and foremost LEOs and a few are rule-fanatics and treat biologists and even the state's F&W personnel no different than the everyday public.

    I had a game warden once tell me that he was damned if I was going to do any research in his territory, even though I was working under both state and federal permits with specific permission to be in the area. When I called the state they said that it was the warden's call. Fortunately he was the only "bad" one I ran across, most were great to work with.

    Though a Warden enforces game and fish regulations, he is an LEO and not a parks and rec person or a biologist. If you want to be a Warden in some states, experience in another type of fish and game job might not be that relevant. In some states, including one where I worked in a fish hatchery, the game wardens are a division of the State Police and are not under the Department of Fish and Wildlife at all. Sometimes this causes conflict and, IMO, it's better if they are part of the F&W agency itself.

    In the state where I now live the Wardens are under F&W but the job is so difficult to get into that the two that we had locally were a father and then his son, who essentially "inherited" the job.

    Here is one state's requirements for a warden's job. If you look at most police agencies' requirements they are more-or-less the same. Here you also are required to have a Bachelor's degree too. A double major in Admin of Justice and Wildlife Conservation would be a good if you wanted to get a job as a game warden.

    http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/warden/career_opportunities/

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URG-LS5C-Qc

    There is also the summer job route. Several of my college cohorts and students got summer jobs as park rangers, firefighters, trail workers etc., which got them on the inside track with an agency. Many schools also will have on-the-job internships as part of their programs, the one I taught at did and all of our Natural Resources program graduates spent at least a quarter working in a field internship prior to graduation.
     
  12. Apr 26, 2012 at 1:59 PM
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    Hmm I always get discouraged when I read about how college degrees are required for the jobs I want to apply for. I just sent my app in for FWC yesterday. I have a BAS in business but I do not think it will help me too much in the application process. I really can't justify returning to school either.
     
  13. Apr 26, 2012 at 2:05 PM
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    Just out of curiosity, what would a new fish and game warden's starting salary be?
     
  14. Apr 26, 2012 at 2:59 PM
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    Hmm not bad. Thanks for the info.
     
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    You would be surprised. I have a BSF(B.S. Forestry). Any degree is helpful.
     
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    Ironically, after posting that, my dad (who works for the city) met an FWC officer at one of his jobs. Got the guy's number and gave him a call - I'm sure the hiring differs among states and all, but he has a bachelor's in marketing and had no issues getting on with the crew here. Starting pay here is only $32k a year, but I really want the job so I'm willing to take a pay cut and work my ass off for it.
     
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    Montana it's ~ $40k starting, not really high considering the need for a Bachelor degree- but the state benefits are good, the retirement is also good and of course the job itself is pretty tough to beat :D
     
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    FWCC hasn't had a pay raise in 5 years at least.....
     
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