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Fishtailing tacoma in the snow

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Jay1193, Dec 4, 2019.

  1. Dec 9, 2019 at 9:57 AM
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    Ah, no it doesn’t. It simply allows you to maintain your speed.
    All powered wheels and wheels that are being braked, have less traction for turning then wheels that free wheel.


    Controlling torque and braking to each individual wheel is best to maintain control. Any locked system CANNOT DO THAT.
    Shifting in and out of a locked state is only advantageous when accelerating and climbing hills with minimal turning.
    In racing, adjustability is best. Your trucks system has limitations.
     
  2. Dec 9, 2019 at 10:10 AM
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    Why are you still rambling on with useless information that no one is talking about? We get it, you know EVERYTHING.
     
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  3. Dec 9, 2019 at 10:15 AM
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    You obviously know you’re incorrect. You guys make these generalities that if left unaddressed, becomes poor and unsafe advice.
     
  4. Dec 9, 2019 at 10:20 AM
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    Yeah, that’s it. :bananadead::deadhorse::sadviolin:
     
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  5. Dec 9, 2019 at 10:22 AM
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    I commend you for recognizing the error of your ways.
     
  6. Dec 9, 2019 at 10:43 AM
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    Ice and slippery conditions are variable and are not continuous and only a computer can respond as each wheel reacts differently. Also, The coefficient of friction doesn’t change just with the surface only , it changes with the weight each wheel supports. Average cars have notoriously poor weight distribution considering people aren’t race drivers. Every wheel has a different COF, and there’s little anyone can do about it. So, I disagree that our truck’s wheels are on the same surface, support the same weight and have the same COF.
     
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  7. Dec 9, 2019 at 10:50 AM
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    Ha ha.
    It’s that big “Ram” on the front and the HEMI logo on the side that makes them feel invincible.

    You were a cop ?
     
  8. Dec 9, 2019 at 11:14 AM
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    You can refer to threshold braking all you want, even the early abs units could brake wheels individual. Your threshold braking does not. Can you reevaluate conditions 15 times a second ? I don’t know any mortal who can. Abs has been around for many decades on commercial airlines. Even the ones on early vehicles were functionally better then mortals.
     
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    :jerkoff:
     
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    At lower speeds powering the front wheels greatly helps in reducing understeer.

    If you are at full lock there is no rotational speed, they are all zero. So are you saying one wheels zero is different from another wheels zero?

    Unlike many who have contributed to this thread, I have literally thousands of hours experience driving my tacoma, (a 2000 manual transmission, without ABS) in snow, and it preforms better at all speeds that I drive, in 4wd.
     
  11. Dec 9, 2019 at 11:32 AM
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    You drive a 2015 Tacoma, so like most of us here, you have part time 4wd. Please explain to us your driving procedures when there is 12 inches of snow on the ground and ice in spots.
     
  12. Dec 9, 2019 at 11:36 AM
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    You must be talking about the gears in the differential having no rotational speed. You certainly could be talking about the shafts going to the wheels.
    They rotated in unison.
     
  14. Dec 9, 2019 at 12:18 PM
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    I encounter conditions of snow and ice, EVERY DAY. We live on a private mountain side road .No where will you encounter 12 inches of snow and ice in spots nor have I ever encounter conditions like that on a main road.. It there is 12 inches of snow, it’s time for my tractor with chains and the six foot wide blower.
    Icing occurs near freezing conditions with lower snow totals or melt and refreeze conditions. If the snow is that deep, you won’t see much ice.
     
  15. Dec 9, 2019 at 12:30 PM
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    An airline pilot told me the ABS on planes has its limitation. I didn't work on slick runways, he said he turned it off.
     
  16. Dec 9, 2019 at 12:32 PM
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    Great way to avoid the primary question with a bunch of irrelevant nonsense. You must be a politician, rambling on like you know literally everything, yet never actually sticking to the topic at hand.
     
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    The abs on a plane is expressly needed for the same reason a car needs it, variable conditions. If it’s totally dry, or totally snow, pilots have a choice. I was stationed at a base for ten years as an ambulance driver. The military used abs in inclement weather.
    The only ones I had to fly in that didn’t, were choppers.
     
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    BS.
    One can’t give a made up fake condition just because they want their own contrived answer. You don’t see ice in 12 inches of snow. Let’s be honest.
     
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    Jesus. Ok explain your driving procedures in ice and 4” of snow. Which you can’t say is made up as I see that multiple times a year, here in central oregon.
     
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    But your advice is to not use 4x4 in the snow? Hmmm, no thanks...
     

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