Fitting 35’s with minimal trimming NOW ADDING LONG TRAVEL AND 934 CV’s

Im pulling all 14" from my shocks with the U402's. The setup works surprisingly well, just lacks in the bump travel department. Will 63's give more travel? I doubt it. Only benefit I personally see is you might not go negative arch as much. But the 63's still ride pretty flat. The only mistake I made with mine was not going SUA right off the bat. My SOA setup cost as much as JD's SUA.

 

Just yesterday i picked up a load of customer parts in the Tacoma. With an empty bed my 63 swap is pretty rough, even just around town, but with 7 sets of sliders in the back they ride really nice. Problem is that they are about 3" off the bumps.

I'm sure with a bit more effort dialing them in you could get some more travel up and down with them, but they are definitely designed to carry weight. I'm running 3 leaves in mine.

They flex well for wheeling, but they won't ever replace a proper long travel rear with better up travel numbers. I'd say they suited my mid travel front very well, but now with the long travel front, I am constantly finding their limits.

 

Exactly my point. Why LT the front and Mid travel the rear. Its simply not going to work as it should.

 

The only reason I can see is if you don't want to SAS, but you mostly do crawly stuff. I know I'm going to drag the JD Sua kit I have sitting on the floor over a lot of stuff, but I would prefer the smooth ride and go fast stuff anyway.

The other thing is that the 63s run such thick leaves that they aren't sensitive to small bumps at all, and have a pretty linear rate due to having just the 3 leaves. A soa Deaver pack has like 9 thin leaves giving better sensitivity, but a more progressive spring rate. I think the Sua deavers have like 11 leaves

 

I'm pulling all 14" of my shock travel on 63s take the shocks off and close to 16" of travel. 63s ride flat when you don't do your research get flat ass used springs. I still have close to 1" of bump I can get before the springs flatten out and about an inch of droop as well. But I mean when you don't really research, just do the status quo, or don't have the experience you won't really see what you can have them do.

Do I think they are as good for high speed stuff newp but they have their place and can be extremely capable and just as good as other options.

 

But even if you only crawl, the SUA conversion is going to yield more articulation. So in my opinion its a win all the way around. The ONLY downfall is the ability to carry weight goes down.

 

Not all 63s are 3 leaves.

 

It's not necessarily gonna loose articulation it takes setting either one up properly to get the best results.

 

They may not all be 3 leaf packs, but when you start adding extra leafs in a SOA setup you're only talking about decreasing up travel. And I always thought that was one of the biggest perks of the 63's. Thinner pack = more up travel.

And no matter what way you cut it, 14" is 14". So if Im pulling that with U402's where is the benefit to 63's? I just dont see if for the effort it takes.

 

Y’all need to quit keyboard arguing and go wheel. Starting to sound like a bunch of @kasnerd in here. (I say as I haven’t driven my truck in weeks because I keep working on other people stuff)

 

Hey now. Some of us are "working".

 

I'll let you know how they compare once I do the swap. I carry a lot of weight in my truck on a frequent basis for work, I also crawl a lot and go fast over whatever we have. Should be interesting.

Loads like this or bigger are basically a daily occurrence. I'm not even using the roof rack for this one, haha

 

Did you go with the H70HD's? Last time I talked to Harry thats the direction he thought would be best for me.

 

Yeah for sure. I'm an "overland" loser kinda guy so have an rtt and fridge and all that nerdy stuff, plus bikes usually when camping

 

This is like the only thread I come on tw for. Don't shame me!

 

SUA may offer better articulation but it does not offer better ground clearance which is kind of important when crawling. I'm also waiting to hear feedback from anyone running the JD rear setup while crawling. I'm personally concerned about dropping shackle directly onto a rock and having a bad day.

 

Think about the ground clearance like this. Many crawlers are solid axle front and rear, the diff hangs lower than anything. Catch is, The tire carries everything over. With SUA the springs are outboard enough that I firmly believe it will never be an issue.

As far as dropping down on the shackle, You would be far better of with JD's design over say DMZ or any of the others that have a ridiculously low hanging shackle mount.

 

I drug the leafs a few times on rubicon but that’s the only time i’ve touched them. And they are so far outboard and close to the tire that you won’t ever get “hung up” on the leaf itself. Just drag it a time or two. They hang no lower than the diff.

As for the shackle, I haven’t yet crawled with mine since inverting it to a traditional style so can’t give much feedback on that

 

All Tacomas have ridiculously low shackles or hangers. The concern is the inverted shackle is exposed. I do agree though, any other SUA kit that uses a hanger hangs much lower than the JD kit. Hence another reason I'd be skeptical of running those setups.

I've crawled with SUA trucks before. It absolutely throws another variable in the mix. I don't disagree that the leafs hang no lower than the diff but it does add additional low hanging parts to navigate around.

I'm just waiting to hear feedback from different experiences. I could be overthinking the entire ordeal.

 

63s work pretty well for being a $200 setup. With 3.5" shackles and 14" shocks, I would drop a 40" tire out of the wheel well and max out the shocks both compression/droop wise, doubted with tons to help the springs droop. Like said above, they are meant for a real truck, so they will ride like a real truck Axle wrap was definitely a thing, as I snapped maybe 3 or 4 springs in 5 years of running 63s. Most run an overload, but with 3 leafs/no overload the ride was quite nice on my lighter crawler.