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Foodies BS Thread.

Discussion in 'Food Talk' started by T4RFTMFW, Apr 15, 2011.

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  1. Mar 17, 2015 at 10:25 AM
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    What the....irish? Pasty?

    In northern WI/da UP the pasty was a staple 'miner food'. Mostly scandanavian/german folks up in that neck of the woods.

    Not saying you're wrong, just....well, where I'm from they aren't ;)
     
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  2. Mar 17, 2015 at 10:36 AM
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    Butte is/was a big mining town with a large Irish population - working in the mines was one of the few jobs that Irish immigrants could get, no one else wanted the work as it was so dangerous! One of the miners' favorite lunch meals was meat, potatoes, onions, etc baked up in a pastry crust. Very filling, self contained meal that could be eaten in a hurry, hot or cold, and was fairly cheap to make. Ask anyone from Butte - the mines in Butte is where the pasty was "born" :cool:
     
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    Dennis now thats what I call breakfast!!! ^^^ Love corn beef!!
     
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    Funny, I was given the same story here, but told it was the norsemen in the mines up around Ironwood that 'invented' them

    Same telling of the durable, tasty, and you could heat them on your shovel over a lamp down in the tunnel so the break was faster lunch food
     
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  5. Mar 17, 2015 at 10:45 AM
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    :laugh: I was always told the Irish miners invented them....and anyone who says otherwise is a liar!!! :angrygirl:

    I'll have to scan my mom's "Butte Heritage Cookbook" next time I'm home - it has the full story of how the pasty came to be.
     
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  6. Mar 17, 2015 at 10:47 AM
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    The pasty wasn't born in america. Like the people that eat them, the idea came from another country.
     
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    I winced when the dude drowned it in ketchup.
     
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  8. Mar 17, 2015 at 11:05 AM
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    If it was hot sauce that would be a whole notha thing!
     
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    Hoss sauce.
     
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  10. Mar 17, 2015 at 12:19 PM
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    Not that I was trying to imply that they WERE an indigenous 'invention'. I just think it odd, that the same story is passed around in very different locales with just the people-name changed ;)

    Because I am in IT and really good at my job, there's days like today where everything is humming along nicely. So, whilst I go about some other catchup duties, I've been reading about the history of the pasty.

    After reading carefully the whole damn first page of google search results, plus the usual suspects of wikipedia and the like, the strongest claims seem to indicate the Cornish miners brought them to the UP of Michigan in the early 1800s, well before statehood, and they spread west from there with natural population movement.

    They're first documented around 1100ish AD in europe, with versions of british, french, and scandanavian popping up from 1300-1500 before coming over here.

    Here's a couple relevant links, if you're bored:

    http://www.hu.mtu.edu/vup/pasty/history.htm

    http://www.history.com/news/hungry-history/miners-delight-the-history-of-the-cornish-pasty

    There's plenty more out there for history, but since this is about the eatins' I'll leave that further reading to y'all
     
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  11. Mar 17, 2015 at 12:30 PM
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    :thumbsup: thanks for the links and I agree with you that stories, foods, etc. tend to be adopted by groups of people and then homogenized into their culture. I'm in IT as well so I've been 'researching' all morning too :p
     
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    RyRy would probably approve...

    But I like just gravy on mine :hungry:

    silly internets....can't believe everything you read :p
     
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  13. Mar 17, 2015 at 12:55 PM
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    Gravy! YES!
     
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    Pasty?! Love that. I'm pretty sure every culture has a meal wrapped in dough.

    I heard that shovel as a heating tool story as well. Miners of some country. But I forget.
     
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    IIRC (and after consulting my best friend, a brit with a green card) Cornwall's known more for their farms and diary products than anything. But they do have a bunch of tin mines.
     
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    I've been to one Cornish pastry place and liked it. Unfortunately, the picky eater of my wife will not as they don't do substitutions since they are premade. :(
     
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    pasty!
     
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    picky? its just meat, potatoes in a pie crust! what is there to be picky about!?!
     
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    Just for you Lisa!
     
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