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Ford F-150 Lightning EV Reveal

Discussion in 'Electric Vehicles (EVs)' started by davidstacoma, May 19, 2021.

  1. May 20, 2021 at 6:15 AM
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    I just mean as far as recalls. Dodge is too busy putting Hellcat engines into everything they can
     
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  2. May 20, 2021 at 6:17 AM
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    I believe Ford will be using charge point. I think they have the most CP's worldwide. RIVIAN is making theiir own and Tesla has theirs. There should have been one system and not vehicle specific. But you can get adaptors to charge Teslas and RIVIAN at Charge Point.
     
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    I'm not just talking about super chargers though, although that's definitely a concern. But the increased demand on the grid will be a concern as well. Tesla is already working on clean energy solutions such as their solar roof.
     
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  4. May 20, 2021 at 6:20 AM
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    This is why the politicians want to pass the infrastructure bill to spur modernization for the EV charging points. Texas though won't be a part of the improvements, they don't want Govt. help. We know where that got them.
     
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    It's just Rivian. Not an abbreviation or anything haha. Electrify America's grid should also be good and support most EVs
     
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    there is that concern and the comments I get all of the time from rednecks in their soot spewing F350 superdoodys. Yes my electricity may be coming from a coal or natural gas power plant but compared to car emissions the power plants face more stringent restrictions as well as localizing the emissions. I would rather drive an electric than a soot spewing truck
     
  7. May 20, 2021 at 6:23 AM
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    Most of NJ uses nuclear so no carbon pollution to charge our EV's
     
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    Personally, I think EV is a stepping stone and not a solution. However, it is exciting to see manufacturers getting concerned about the future. I don't know if the solution is hybrid, or alternative/renewable fuel such as what Porsche is working on, or something else entirely. But I don't see EV lasting more than 20 or so years before something else comes along or begins serious development.
     
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    Not much more annoying than someone rolling coal. The funny thing is the vehicle isn't even running right. They're just being an ass and destroying their own vehicle in my opinion.
     
  10. May 20, 2021 at 6:28 AM
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    How do you figure?
     
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    I'd really like to see hydrogen take off, just need the infrastructure and the ability to extract it from a clean resource other than natural gas. I read an article somewhere that new nuclear plants would produce hydrogen as a byproduct.
     
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    I think BEV's are a stepping stone towards Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicles. Few if any batteries and water is the only byproduct. Production of Hydrogen, at the moment, uses a lot of energy.
     
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    Before yesterday I never had the displeasure of driving behind one of these idiots until yesterday. Was just one car behind him, heading into work so there were lots of slow downs and speed ups. Because of this jackass I couldn't have any of my windows open.
     
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    Rolling Coal is illegal in NJ with very steep fines. Also there is a trend that these truck park in Tesla and EV charging spots which is a towable offense and fines as well.
     
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    I don't even have a EV and this makes my blood boil. The attitude is just so backwards.
     
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    Just my hunch. No real basis except current technology, which could easily evolve over time. Right now EVs are inefficient due to lack of infrastructure (both electric and manufacturing), but have a lot of potential. But let's also add that currently the fastest charging is probably 45 minutes or so with similar range to current vehicles. That may be ok for commutes, but not so great for long trips or long road trips. Not to mention the faster charging is harder on the battery and costs more.

    Porsche is working on a carbon neutral alternative fuel which can be used in current gasoline cars and distributed using the current network of gas stations. There's no guarantee that will ever work, but it's a possibility nonetheless.
     
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    These morons are aptly named 'ICEholes"

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    This is what German police do when a petrol truck parks in an EV spot

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    Right. The infrastructure isn't there for mass production either. Planes, ships, and trains are hugely inefficient at face value. What makes them the most efficient way to transport cargo is the amount of cargo they can transport on that same amount of fuel. It's the same reason people point to mining and manufacture of EVs (wind turbines, etc) and say it's much more inefficient than the current solution of coal/natural gas, etc. With time technology will develop and scale will build up and efficiency will take off. We can't just do nothing in the mean time because that would mean the technology would never get there.
     
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    I see your point. And I guess I'd add that for EVs to really be successful, we need to see massive investment in infrastructure (charging stations) and we really need to see some big leaps in battery tech. Energy density is just not high enough with current tech and they are still hugely damaging to the environment in addition to their expense. Case in point, F150 has 1800 pounds of battery and still only get 300 mile range. When empty, cut that in half if you actually use it for truck things.
     
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