Fox 2.0 shocks for budget off road racing build?

Guilty as charged. I hope it’s interpreted as light hearted razing combined with sincere advice

 

I mean it's far from a waste of time. A custom valved shock will universally be better. Coming from a background in downhill bikes seeing custom valved vs off the shelf is night and day. But for 90% of us off the shelf valving is what we will run therefore the examples displayed in those tests are stupidly valuable to the masses. My current set of elkas has custom valving done and I'm looking forward to seeing the difference real world. Not quite apples to apples going from a 2.0 to a 2.5 resi but should see quite an improvement.

 

You know it’s funny, you people call yourself adults and like to pretend youre all mature n shit, when you talk and act like children. If you were genuinely mature minded adults you Wouldn’t have even responded when you thought I was acting like a “dick”, you would have simply dismissed me as a “dumb kid“. I don’t just give respect to assholes on the Internet. You have to earn it. Let me summarise what just happened, I made a post asking for Advice on a budget suspension upgrade, specifically mentioned Fox 2.0, and Beilstein 6112, and set a clear parameter, I don’t have a bunch of money to dump into heavily modifying my daily driver truck. The first reply I got, was from some spoiled brat telling Me that I shouldn’t be able to afford a $25,000 truck, because I guess he doesn’t understand that loans exist, and that I shouldnt bother with a suspension upgrade. I then got a bunch more forum dwelling idiots chiming in, with their own out of touch comments. The few comments I did get that were actually relevant to my post, I appreciate, you guys actually have brains. The rest of you get ur heads outta ur asses, and touch grass

 

You shouldn't, though. Just buy the shocks from AccuTune or Filthy and they will come pretuned for your trucks weight and drive style. There's absolutely no reason the masses should be running untuned shocks. They do not cost any more.

I honestly don't blame OP. It's 3 pages of dummies trying to express that multi-thousand dollar racing shocks are worse than OEM. Which is obviously, plainly and blatantly, wrong and frustrating.

 

The Fox 2.0's should be an upgrade for what you are planning for the truck. One of the reasons why I went with TRD Pro set up because they're on a Fox platform for high speed off road.

I answered your original question, but I'm going to make a totally different recommendation. Take whatever disposable income you have in college and invest in Nvidia, Amazon or Meta. Don't put into your truck. In 10 years, after you graduate college and get into the workforce, you may be driving a totally different vehicle. I had a 1995 Dakota in college. It was a 2wd manual, 5.2 V8 and 3.91 limited slip. I thought I could make a quick little truck by adding catback, Mopar PCM, open air cleaner. I wish I hadn't. It made it a little quicker, but I wish I had put the $1000 I spent on that truck into Apple or Microsoft. I parted with that truck after 15 years, but I was already driving another car by then. I went for instant gratification in college, but if I had to do it all over again, I would have just kept that truck stock.

 

@JohnDoe007 If you're gonna get Fox 2.0s, Tire Rack usually has the best price on 'em.

 

I don't think people seeking advice receive advice well when they're offended. Its really easy to take a message and pervert it when you don't feel like you agree with it. I don't think anyone even came close to insinuating that multi-thousand dollar shocks are worse than OEM. Maybe it was interpreted that way because multiple people suggested stay stock for now and save money for something better, but the message of high-end shocks being worse than stock was never given. At the end of the day, there's no denying Fox 2.0s or 6112s wouldn't be an improvement over stock - the disconnect was everybody stating they wouldn't be sufficient for OP's described use case, and OP interpreting that as a financial uppercut to his pride. You can't talk about multi-thousand dollar performance shocks, make legitimate comparisons in performance, and not talk about value/money of each.

This thread was no different than countless threads that start every day. OP describes a goal/use case for truck, tells the budget, and quickly realizes the two don't match. The only difference in this thread and the others, the others usually become informative, or point the OP to the search feature to find resources before buying, and this one became a pissing contest bc the OP was easily offended and started name calling/being aggressive. Nobody said anything out of line that couldn't be summed up by what the moderator said: "Cost aside, buy it right the first time." I'd hope people in this forum would be as brutally honest with me if I asked similar questions, even if the answer wasn't what I'd hoped for, and thankfully so far, you have been.

 

Op or you could be like me with 6k worth of suspension upgrades and don't even wheel anymore. . I don't have time for it. But it's looks good though.

 

Might i suggest you go out and see how the suspension works first. Affix a gopro to the bottom to view how things work in whoops or small jumps etc. you might have to change tour outlook on what you want to do mod wise to work with your budget.

 

And we have to pay for these folks "student loans"

 

I’d say find some take off shocks from a TRD Pro and buy a tire deflator + air compressor

 

People buy budget suspension upgrades every day, I personally know two guys who run 6112’s, for overlanding and rock crawling. Does this mean they crawl 6 ft rocks in their mostly stock 4Runners? No, absolutely not. They know what to expect from their rigs. My suspension is squeaking, I’m pretty sure my passenger rear shock is leaking, I want to level the truck, replace my stock suspension, and get a small upgrade, (GEARED TOWARD MY PERFERED USE CASE). When I started this thread I specified two suspension kits, 6112, and fox 2.0. From what I have seen, for 1200-1300$ bolstering 6112 are an amazing option, anyone who says they perform even close to stock is genuinely stupid. Fox as a brand is known for off-road racing suspension, and because I generally like a pre running style of off roading, (I need to make it clear for the dummies in the back, I’m NOT WINNING RACES IN MY STOCK TACOMA), I was wondering if the 1400$ fox shocks would be better for my perfered use case, than the 6112. I didn’t get offended, people who get off topic for no reason are annoying, the first response to my post was an annoying person, I’m sure they’re the same in real life. Taking jabs for the sake of taking jabs. When I ask a question in a forum, and set parameters, I expect you to stay on topic, not get offended by the fact that I can afford a 350$ a month payment on my 7 year old truck. I don’t want to build a rig with 10k in aftermarket parts, I don’t want to cut up my truck, I already specified that, I was a budget lift, with slightly better performance than stock, and that’s where my off road spending ends for this vehicle. Don’t tell me I should wait 5 years so I can spend 15k. I don’t want to, I wouldn’t if I had the money. A friend from work has a 100k+ raptor build, he’s one múltiple baja races. If I really want that level of performance I’d just drive that. This is my last reply to this stupid thread full of grown up children. Everyone here except cowfootball (who actually answered my question), seems genuinely dumb, I don’t understand how any of you even drive with your lack of common sense and decency.

 

I feel like unlocking this was a mistake. But I'm here for the dumpster fire it is.

 

Buy the Fox 2.0s; your mind was made before you ever posted. You write out replies to me defending all of these things about money/budget as if I've said anything about it because you're offended by the replies you got in the thread. I told you from the start to buy what your budget allows, and upgrade as your budget allows. Its a cycle - most of the people who commented on your thread have lived through the cycle because it doesn't end. Thats why everyone says you're wasting your money. "Buy once, cry once" is a world-known phrase for a reason. But if your budget doesn't allow, join the rest of us who buy multiple times, cry multiple times. The Fox shocks are better than stock. They'll be great. Just not sufficient for what you originally said you wanted to do with the truck. But go live and learn, you've got your whole life to figure this shit out. Reality for most people is you don't need what you think or say you need anyways, when your life just looks like driving on road to school and work with no time for racing anyways.

You got exactly what you asked for posting this thread - people telling you your budget options weren't suitable for the performance you said you needed. Its okay to move the goal posts and further describe what your usage and expectations actually are. For a little lift to level, better than stock, and shocks that aren't leaking, 2.0s will serve you fine. For anything you originally said, you should highly consider increasing your budget for something that will serve those expectations more appropriately. And something nobody else even threw out there, consider used 2.5s. You dont HAVE to increase your budget to get better value, you may just have to be patient and do your research to find good used deals.

 

Dude can you read? Like at all? I don’t want better performance, do you understand what that means, this is my daily driver vehicle, it takes me to work and back, I don’t want it to be an off road monster, I like the performance gain of the 6112 after having driven with them, I asked if the fox would be a slightly better option, I just need a damn lift and performance bump over stock, what part of that can you not wrap your chronically online, curb crawling brain around. I don’t want to increase my budget, I wouldn’t if I had the damn money, did you even read my last post? Of course not, and if you did, you clearly didn’t understand a single word I said. I genuinely can’t tell if your a troll

My mind was not made up on the fox, I bought a set of bilsteins before I even started the thread, they haven’t even come in yet, a friend suggested fox 2.0’s and I thought I’d ask which one’s better in this thread, because I can always return the bilsteins and buy the fox’s.

 

You're so easily offended, no one is going to want to give you any genuine help. For someone who self-proclaimed doesn't know shit about trucks or suspension, you sure seem to know everything.. Why even ask anything? I can't say it any more clearly - buy the Fox 2.0s. Or buy the 6112s. They're both better than stock, 6112s arguable better than Fox based on specs alone, but completely depending on who you ask. And if you want even more performance WITHOUT increasing your budget, also consider used 2.5s in the flavor of your choice. Good luck in life man.

Go ahead and lock her back down mods, she's hopeless.

 

I don’t have student loans. Maybe I’ll get some to piss u off.