fox 2.5 DSC issues?

I can’t tell anything from the video. I would suggest researching what stock measurements from fender to hub are for your gen truck. You may have too much preload on the coils which will cause it to ride like ass.

 

I'm one of the idiots in the video. I own a shop that works exclusively on offroad toyotas. The other one tunes shocks for race teams for Koh etc, and builds full custom off road trucks. We both do shock service and tuning.

We never said Fox makes bad shocks, in fact we both like fox a lot. The tune in the non-dsc shocks we tested was abysmal. Their build quality is great, but the tune was bad. Fox even reached out to us about why it's so bad and what they've improved in their newer Performance Elite Series shocks.

The icons rode better off the shelf, as much as it pains me to say it, because I dislike icon. I've seen more broken or blown icons than any other shock that comes into our shop. But this is why we did it blind, to test off the shelf performance with no biases.

Unfortunately testing long-term durability of shocks blind is not really possible.

To the OP, if the ride quality of your fox dsc's isn't what you were hoping, and it can't be tuned how you like with the adjusters, get them tuned by somebody that knows what they are doing, and be stoked. Fox makes a great product.

 

I stand by the opinion that it's a completely useless comparison... mostly because it's completely subjective... and ALSO, more importantly, it's become fodder for idiots, that don't know anything, to come to a bunch of wrong conclusions.

My evidence... this thread

 

I have been running Fox 2.0 for a little while and for high speed desert running they are awesome which is mostly what I do.
Less so on some of the lower speed stuff especially with upgraded leaf springs and an empty bed.
That being said if you are truly done with these OP I'd be willing to take them off your hands.
This is a serious offer not an attempt to troll you.

 

I went from kings 2.5 Without adjusters to some slightly used fox 2.5s dsc that were tuned by accutune, they were tuned for the exact weight with their street tune. I liked the fox better but it wasn’t a big difference, I decided to get the fox shocks rebuilt and re-valved but I didn’t noticed a big difference either. The shocks are amazing don’t get me wrong, I love them. I feel that I got used to how they ride and I just wish they were softer. I think how the shocks feel is subjective to a lot of factors/opinions for example, when my friends ride with me they always say it rides amazing and it’s really soft.

 

Thats a good point. After a while you get used to the nice ride. Our engineers feel that way daily, always room for improvement and we are making updates constantly. Occasionally I will jump in someone else's truck and quickly be reminded how much better mine drives than theirs.

 

Hey man,
Have you played with the adjusters? Also, what are you running for your leafs? Where does it feel harsh to you, front, rear or all? Unfortunately the video looks super smooth. Share more info please.

 

I have fox 2.5 dsc all around with camburg UCA and OME medium leaf pack In the rear.. out of the box... accutune hasnt touched it yet..

I do agree that fox rides a little more rough compared to kings or bill steins, however, a lot of it has to do with your rear leaf springs.. also the preload setting you have on your coilovers... They say to only get 2'' out of the fox 2.5 (mid travel) on a tacoma.. any more than that you will be experiencing a "rough" ride..

Also every truck is different based on the weight of the vehicle.

im happy with mine.. I did expect it to be more flush.. however its a truck.. if you wanted it to drive like a rolls Royce you should sell your truck and buy something else.

 

Curious what rate coil springs you've got you state correct but not the rate. Also what rear leaf pack? Folks need to remember that the idea of a performance suspension system isn't necessarily to give a cushy ride but to keep the tires intack with the ground at speed. My 2.5s are tunes from Accutune and with the adjusters opened up it rides very smooth, down side is when I decide to drive aggressively without turning the adlusters it bottoms out a lot and the tires loose contact with the ground, fault here being my laziness

 

I don't have any experience with the skyjacker rears, but it sounds like you're sprung correctly. I'd suggest getting your foxs tuned or switching to bilteins, I know neither of those are the opinion you want but it is mine. I switched to Dura bumps with the intention of bottoming out, as stated earlier I'm lazy and don't mess with my shocks enough, I also don't run a sway bar, so my low speeds up front are tightened up a bit also. I tried Allpro rear leafs & found they weren't quiete stiff enough for my rear weight so at the moment I'm back on my ome mediums, I may try deaver or alcan in the future who knows.

 

It's not very often I read feedback like this with Fox shocks. I think the question above can really only be answered by you. Do you have the budget, patience and time to stay in the fight? If the shocks are still new condition, you could always attempt to sell and replace with something else.

We have a lot of experience with those shocks and tuning them to ride very smooth on and off-road. Sometimes the trouble we run into, is working around parts that are already on the vehicle. Leaf springs for example can be too stiff for the weight of the vehicle and something very difficult to tune around. If you're interested in getting them professionally tuned, I can certainly help with that process. Let us know if we can help!

 

Fox 2.5 DSCs that have been Accutuned here... (Adventure tune) No complaints or regrets at all.
I would call the ride firm, but definitely nothing resembling "harsh". I'm still playing around with the settings some, but seem to be settling on around 3 for the HSC, and 4-5 for the LSC (bumping them up a couple notches for offroad). I would suggest contact Accutune and see what they can do for you.

I've no experience with the stock Fox tune though, so I can't comment other than a buddy & I putting some off-the-shelf 2.0 Resi's on an early Ford Explorer and found little to complain about (yeah I know, apples & oranges).


One thing not really talked about much here is tire ratings.
I had my Foxes on a few months with the stock all-season tires before putting LT E-rated offroady tires on... (C wasn't available at the time) Gave the truck an entirely different personality (most noticeable being the weight of the tires going over bumps, which is maybe what some of you are experiencing and mistaking it for the shocks). Switching to C-rated tires generally should yield a ride improvement over E-rated (my next set will be Cs since they are now available in the size/brand tire I run). Any LT tire (even C-rated) will still ride worse than stock tires though, so that's something that will have to be tolerated if offroading is part of your use.

 

Unfortunately we hear that a lot, and we also wish you had heard about us first.

Our custom tuning with shocks we sell is free, so no additional cost and we will revalve later if necessary for free. This doesn't have a time limit either, so maybe 2 years from now you plan to race with those shocks, we will revalve them for you. We've probably gone through hundreds (3-400+) different tunes to get our secret sauce working just right and we are constantly leaning more and improving. After reading this, I am wondering if I can convince out engineers to print some shock dyno data btw off the shelf Fox and AOR tuning. I think that would be a cool thing to show off. In some instances, we drill out the pistons to allow for more oil flow. It can get extremely complex.

Anyway, definitely report back with your newly tuned Fox shocks. I'd be very curious how that works out and hopefully it meets or exceeds your expectations.