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Fox Life!!! Anything Related to Fox's

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by ThaiChillyTaco, Feb 25, 2018.

  1. Sep 4, 2019 at 3:30 PM
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    go2cnavy

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    OVTuned - 19800 w/ 93 octane 2.5" Lift on Fox SCS RAY 10s Falken Wildpeak AT3W 275/70R17 Front: Fox 2.5 DSC on 14” 600lb Eibach coils. 2” of preload. 200psi. Rear: FOX-985-24-108 2.0 LSC paired with Dakar leafs and a 1.5” block. The rear shocks are made for a TJ front so @AccuTune Offroad built them using lower bushings and sleeves for a Tacoma.
    I understand you are upset. It is a minor inconvenience to pull the suspension and send it back in. I’d recommend having a spare set of cheapo shocks to mount, because the Fox set up will need to be refreshed every couple of years.

    Ps. I sent mine back for a revalve and the latest tune is phenomenal.

    Bashing @AccuTune Offroad is not the way to get things done. The ears on some of the lower control arms get squished with stock suspension and require a little finessing at times to fit the Fox back in.

    Pull them and send them back in. Easy.

    Solid response. Can’t make 100% of people happy 100% of the time. At least you’re offering to help.
     
  2. Sep 4, 2019 at 3:49 PM
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    Where’d all that oil come from?
     
  3. Sep 4, 2019 at 3:57 PM
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    Its water i was washing the truck when I noticed the shock
     
  4. Sep 4, 2019 at 4:05 PM
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    I’ve seen it happen are rare occasions but that sucks.
     
  5. Sep 4, 2019 at 4:24 PM
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    Yeah bud. Sorry for the events. But with customizing the truck it's up to the owner to put in some foresight. Hope everything worked well in the end. I'm sure it was never the intent of @*TRD* to do you wrong as they've been an outstanding company on here.


    *edit. Sorry for the terrible Grammer. Got the stink eye texting at dinner
     
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  6. Sep 4, 2019 at 4:26 PM
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    ‘17 OR DCLB. OVT 2.0 (93). +2.5” Fox DSC (600 lb coils), Falken WP 275/70R17
    OVTuned - 19800 w/ 93 octane 2.5" Lift on Fox SCS RAY 10s Falken Wildpeak AT3W 275/70R17 Front: Fox 2.5 DSC on 14” 600lb Eibach coils. 2” of preload. 200psi. Rear: FOX-985-24-108 2.0 LSC paired with Dakar leafs and a 1.5” block. The rear shocks are made for a TJ front so @AccuTune Offroad built them using lower bushings and sleeves for a Tacoma.
    If they appear to have pulled out, its probably because you are lifted too high in the rear and ran out of down travel.

    The extended length on rears (985-24-117) is 23.80”
    If your up 2-2.5", your eye to eye ride height is probably around 21.5" leaving your 2.3 inches of droop. It's not enough.

    Measure eye to eye at ride height and subtract it from 23.8".

    For what it's worth, I had a similar problem with too little available down travel after installing dakars and switch to the Fox 985-24-108 that have 25.3" extended length.
     
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  7. Sep 4, 2019 at 5:41 PM
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    In other news. 2.0 with resi and compression adjusters. Just added @ARCHIVE hammer hangers. They're ride very nice. It's as if it takes less initial force to let the suspension do it's job.

    Probably +20k on the suspension before this for a baseline
     
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  8. Sep 4, 2019 at 5:50 PM
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    This is great to hear... I have the same shocks in the back and also am awaiting some hammer hangers. Glad to hear the ride is noticeably different.
     
  9. Sep 4, 2019 at 5:52 PM
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    Yup. Eric, Erik? Is fantastic to talk too. When in doubt, give him a call, and leave a message if he doesn't pick up. Very good small business there.

    I like BAMF very much as well. It's nice to see an east coast have some offerings as well.
     
  10. Sep 4, 2019 at 5:55 PM
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    You’re right, it does measure around 21 from eye to eye. I asked the online store where I bought them, if the 23.8 were enough for the add a leaf that I have and they said yes.
    I’m still surprised though, I haven’t done anything extreme
     
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    Ya BAMF makes some great looking stuff but being from CT I also would like to give an east coaster my business. @ARCHIVE
     
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  12. Sep 4, 2019 at 5:57 PM
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    I met him at the North East get together that @crashngiggles put together as a fantstic fund raiser. The display and meeting Eric was great.
     
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  13. Sep 4, 2019 at 6:56 PM
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    I’d send them to @AccuTune Offroad for repair ask them to build you a set with more travel longer - Then sell the ones you had repaired. An extra 1.5” doesn’t sound like a lot, but it really is significant.

    You could probably use a tap and die set to rethread both shaft and mount, but unless you already have a t/d set, a good bench vice, and a block of some kind to hold the shaft in the vice, it’s probably easier and cheaper to send them in.
     
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  14. Sep 4, 2019 at 7:37 PM
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    I was thinking about that but the repair may end up costing more than the shocks.
    I thought about repairing the shaft but I can’t seem to find the part number for the mount 3619BACE-9A0B-47E0-91D2-E7CBCC51B28B.jpgA9E05D44-BB62-4588-8D08-D74E3095D24F.jpg
     
  15. Sep 5, 2019 at 8:34 AM
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    Yeah ok so I guess I'm getting into this again. Bottom line is they were not tuned appropriately the first time and I'm not doing business with Accutune again. It's nice you think paying for shipping both ways and re-tuning them is an acceptable solution but 1. I can't be guaranteed they'd be any better, could actually come back even worse and 2. this solution involves me buying another set of cheap shocks and uninstalling and re-installing 2 more times or 1x and renting a car for a couple weeks. So while shipping and tuning would be at your expense, there are other costs involved that should not have to come out of my pocket. I've already paid for the shocks and should not have to pay more to, for lack of a better term, "fix" brand new shocks.
     
  16. Sep 5, 2019 at 8:42 AM
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    What do you mean they weren't tuned properly
     
  17. Sep 5, 2019 at 8:50 AM
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    I suggest you buy off-the-shelf suspension next time from your local dealer or auto parts store. Custom valving is just that, custom and requires feedback from the end user. Suspension shops try to set up the kits based on a user’s intended use. Far too often the user doesn’t know what they want or what there’re unhappy with until they install. Or... they aren’t truthful about amount of off-roading they’re doing. It really does take a second tune to make most people happy with their setup.

    For what it’s worth, whether it be my truck, dirt bike, or street bike, I’ve never been happy with the initial setup regardless of manufacturer/tuner.
     
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    From a 3rd party point of you, you should have done much more research about purchasing an aftermarket shock setup and possible stuck with something a little less performance oriented.

    Shock tuning is very subjective to the specific user and vehicle setup so having the expectation of nailing the valving on the first try without paying for a private session is very unreasonable. Companies like Accutune utilize the information/experience they have available to alter valving and get you what they believe is the closest to your desired ride and expectation but it’s not a full proof science. Especially being it changes so much from one individual to another.

    It sounds like they have tried to be very generous in finding a solution yet you continually bash their service? What happens when your shocks are due for a rebuild? What is your plan of attack to send your shocks off while a company performs the regular maintenance?

    Additionally, I find the expectation of having the vendor face the set screw outwards to be a little weak. If anything, that would be the responsibility of the installer, which appears to be you, to do so.
     
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    I guess I just have higher standards. Buying something, anything, brand new, I expect it to work as advertised straight out of the box. I expect something marketed for a specific model vehicle to fit. I shouldn't have to modify it to work. Dash kits for example: some fit right and others not so much. People seem to have just come to accept poor quality these days. Not saying the Fox shocks are poor quality, just the opposite. But the fact that they can't come up with the proper bushing for our trucks is unacceptable in my mind.
     
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  20. Sep 6, 2019 at 6:16 AM
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    It did fit. It came from fox the same way it did from any other company. The vavle adjustment offered from AccuTune is above and boyond normal distribution practice. The factory did the right thing and set the collar at a predetermined height specified by fox for general Tacoma use. They have proper bushings. They included them. Shock body and parts are interchanged depending on vehicle and application.

    Sucks you forgot to rotate the collar before instalation. But instead of being pissed over something that's nobody's fault but the installer, make looks at is a life lesson that if adding aftermarket parts to your truck to put some extra foresight into future maintenance and how to accommodate it.
     
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