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Fox vs kings, little help please.

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Redgrom, Nov 14, 2011.

  1. Nov 14, 2011 at 5:46 PM
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    Redgrom

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    Hello, first let me say I did try the search and understand both companies make excellent products but still would like a little advice.
    Here are my off road needs, this is not my daily driver but need to keep the shell and bed functional so long travel is out. Truck will be driven in the desert with long trips through death valley to reach remote photo locations and camping destinations, also I enjoy shooting off road races so would like to be able to chase the trucks (short cuts) so I will be getting on it a little. Also I will be driving to Utah and hope to do a little offroad exploring this year.
    So with that out of the way what shock would you guys recommend? Already have tc arms to install when I add the shocks.
    First thought is the fox coils with the rez here is the link http://downsouthmotorsports.com/i-134716-fox-racing-toyota-tacoma-2005-2009-performance-kit.html

    Or the adjustable kings with the rez linked hear http://downsouthmotorsports.com/i-7...current-toyota-tacoma-4wd-2wd-pre-runner.html
    The kings retail for $1800 and the foxes are $1260 but the kings are "adjustable on the fly, ok turn a knob".

    Will I get roughly $500 more out of the Kings?
    Thanks.
     
  2. Nov 14, 2011 at 5:46 PM
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    Fox or king their both good
     
  3. Nov 14, 2011 at 5:49 PM
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  4. Nov 14, 2011 at 5:49 PM
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    I don't have any experience with fox, but my kings are soooo nice. Dsm will give you a good deal on the kings btw
     
  5. Nov 14, 2011 at 5:49 PM
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  6. Nov 14, 2011 at 5:51 PM
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    I'm having the EXACT same dilemma right now between the two. I wrote DSM with specs that I would add a plate bumper, full skids and have a motorcycle in the bed, and they wrote back:

    "I would suggest wither a Fox or a King coil over shock for the front and
    an add-a-leaf in the rear. The front you can pre load the coil to
    compensate for the additional weight and get some lift out of it and the
    rear add-a-leaf will give you another 600lbs or so additional weight
    capacity for your motorcycle. The coil overs will range from about $1200
    for the Fox and $1350 for the King. The add-a-leaf is the 3-stage one by
    Icon and it is $179.99."

    Just noticed RAD has the 2.5" King shocks, and will be hitting him up for advice if it's not already posted in his thread.

    Anyway, good luck, and keep us informed!
     
  7. Nov 14, 2011 at 5:52 PM
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    i would go with the adjustable kings, i have seen the old kind and the new kind in person and they are so awesome and easy to adjust but then again it really depends on how hard you will push it, if its not gonna be pushed to its limits you wont see a big difference with all those adjustable settings,
     
  8. Nov 14, 2011 at 5:53 PM
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    Yeah they sound real nice for sure, I think the forum price from DSM is a little better but know they don't post prices here so I just rounded up.
    Good to know both products are up to the task, just not sure if the adjustable kings are worth the extra $500?
     
  9. Nov 14, 2011 at 6:03 PM
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    I have the rear kings as well.
     
  10. Nov 14, 2011 at 6:08 PM
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    Thanks for the reply, thing is most of the time offroad I am sure both are overkill, but when trying to cut across a race course and keep up with "full race builds" I tend to use my right foot a little more:D
     
  11. Nov 14, 2011 at 7:25 PM
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    This is just my personal option and if any of you know me, I've dealt suspension stuff for a while.

    1A. King
    1B. Fox
    1C. Icon

    2A. SAW
    2B. Walker Evans

    3. OME

    Go with the Kings 2.5" RR (non compression adjustable) for around $1500 and $800 for the matching rear shocks.

    PS. I might run another group-buy of these in a few days. ;)
     
  12. Nov 14, 2011 at 7:54 PM
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    Same ish everyones doin
    I just put on the DSM UCA and Fox 2.5 w/RR CO's w/ Fox 2.0 w/RR on the rear. Couldnt be happier. If you choose to go with King (my friend has them on his-long travel) both are good but DSM will hook you up either way. Amazing to work with and mention your from TW and you get better pricing. Marco is the Man At DSM... Best of Luck.

    PS - I have no affiliation with DSM, I herd about em from TW and they past my expectations as this was my first purchase. Seriously cant go wrong.


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  13. Nov 14, 2011 at 8:23 PM
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    The adjustable kings are better being adjustable . But you really don't need to adjust them if you buy them valved for your truck . And since you are not going LT I'd suggest the fox ext .
     
  14. Nov 15, 2011 at 7:41 AM
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    Performance wise they are very close, I think after having both in many applications that King is slightly better, However whereas customer service is a point I'd have to go King all the way as Fox's Customer service is aweful.
     
  15. Nov 15, 2011 at 7:47 AM
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    You guys talking about the kings being adjustable, how? Is it by the little knob on the reservoir?
     
  16. Nov 15, 2011 at 7:57 AM
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  17. Nov 15, 2011 at 8:11 AM
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    What does King 2", 2.5" and 3" mean? The maximum height? Or travel?
     
  18. Nov 15, 2011 at 8:13 AM
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    Thanks.

    What effect would that have? Larger = more smooth?
     
  19. Nov 15, 2011 at 8:32 AM
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    Ah! Awesome, thanks! +1

    DSM just got back to me and said 2.5" is the only OEM size for Tacomas, so I guess that takes care of that.
     
  20. Nov 15, 2011 at 10:24 AM
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    Just spoke with them as well, after talking about my truck with the front bumper and ato skids I might want to go with the kings as the will swap the spring for a heavier springs for the same price.
     
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