1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Frame rust recall

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by markey, Feb 14, 2013.

  1. Feb 2, 2019 at 7:43 AM
    #3401
    TrdSurgie

    TrdSurgie revised

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2012
    Member:
    #73132
    Messages:
    3,776
    Gender:
    Male
    Oahu
    I can understand their hesitation with your claim. That hole doesn't look like natural corrosion. I am not saying that it isn't. Just looks "weird".
     
    WNYTACOMA likes this.
  2. Feb 2, 2019 at 7:46 AM
    #3402
    ryangriffith

    ryangriffith Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2013
    Member:
    #114131
    Messages:
    18
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ryan
    Minneapolis, MN
    Vehicle:
    2008 Tacoma Double Cab TRD
    Map light mod Heated Seat GROM audio Headlight Mod
    My 08 went in for its frame replacement. The dealership did a first-rate job. I replaced the front and rear shocks and links while I was at it. Cost me about $40 in additional labor. It rides so much nicer!
     
    OutriderDan likes this.
  3. Feb 2, 2019 at 10:19 AM
    #3403
    OutriderDan

    OutriderDan Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2019
    Member:
    #280804
    Messages:
    12
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Daniel
    Vehicle:
    '07 Tacoma DCLB TRD Sport
    I want that same experience!!!!!
     
  4. Feb 2, 2019 at 11:42 AM
    #3404
    bobsuruncle

    bobsuruncle I void warranties

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2015
    Member:
    #148863
    Messages:
    4,595
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Robert
    Fall City, WA
    Vehicle:
    06 TRD OR DCSB
    ARB bull bumper, warn 9000 with synthetic rope, icon CO's & 700lb coils, road armor rear bumper, dakars + Archive Garage shackle flip.
    What is most concerning to me is the internal rust. The outside looks fine, but is paper thin. It's not thicker than a soda can, and I can take a can opener to it peeling it back.
     
  5. Feb 2, 2019 at 1:18 PM
    #3405
    CableTec

    CableTec Legend in my own mind

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2009
    Member:
    #14296
    Messages:
    200
    Gender:
    Male
    J-ville and P-ville, FL
    Vehicle:
    2007 V6 PreRunner SR5 TRD
    See sig.....
    So, went under the Tacoma and examined really closely around the front cats, etc - and I must be one of the lucky ones. There is barely any rust at all on my frame. Barely any discoloration. I guess because my truck doesn't really get hammered with salt where I am though it does sit outside. Left and right side by the cats pictured. Some on one side but should come off pretty easily with a Harbor Freight needler and acid. I think I am going to get under the truck and rust proof the frame and remove the tiny rust spots. Just to have peace of mind.

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/frame-restoration-did-it-myself.368199/

    0202191551a_HDR.jpg
    0202191551_HDR.jpg
     
  6. Feb 2, 2019 at 1:54 PM
    #3406
    BraskaTaco

    BraskaTaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2016
    Member:
    #174711
    Messages:
    1,604
    Gender:
    Male
    Nebraska
    Vehicle:
    2013 Tacoma TRD OR
    Yep. Road salt in northern states is what kills these trucks.
     
    CableTec likes this.
  7. Feb 2, 2019 at 2:03 PM
    #3407
    Markcal

    Markcal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2014
    Member:
    #136147
    Messages:
    2,726

    With the Tacoma's long history of frame rust, Toyota should advise owners of this and recommend applying an undercoating like Fluid Film externally and internally, for people living where calcium chloride/brine is put on roads. All the owners manual recommends is hosing down the undercarriage, which as we have all seen isn't enough to stop corrosion.
     
    CableTec likes this.
  8. Feb 2, 2019 at 2:10 PM
    #3408
    BraskaTaco

    BraskaTaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2016
    Member:
    #174711
    Messages:
    1,604
    Gender:
    Male
    Nebraska
    Vehicle:
    2013 Tacoma TRD OR
    100% agreed. And dealer installed undercoatings should be a thing of the past. A previous owner had it done and today I looked under my 2013 and found a piece where it was chipping off. What was under it? Rust. My whole frame probably has accelerated rust because of something done by the dealer to prevent it.
     
  9. Feb 2, 2019 at 2:28 PM
    #3409
    Markcal

    Markcal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2014
    Member:
    #136147
    Messages:
    2,726

    I had my frame undercoated with CRC by the dealership in 2014 and is holding up well. The reason I think mine is still looking good is that after the CRC undercoating, I have applied Fluid Film over it every fall to keep it soft/waxy and not flaking which could let moisture and oxygen get to the frame.
     
  10. Feb 2, 2019 at 9:33 PM
    #3410
    TrdSurgie

    TrdSurgie revised

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2012
    Member:
    #73132
    Messages:
    3,776
    Gender:
    Male
    Oahu
    That's crazy man. I hope you get some help with this.
     
  11. Feb 3, 2019 at 10:08 AM
    #3411
    cleats50

    cleats50 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2017
    Member:
    #222374
    Messages:
    118
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    chris
    Vehicle:
    Tacoma 2007 TRD
    air intake push bar running boards
    Do these help. Just got my new sweet frame.

    IMG_2632.jpg
    IMG_2630.jpg
     
    mlowber likes this.
  12. Feb 5, 2019 at 12:46 AM
    #3412
    robssol

    robssol If it ain't broke, leave it the eff alone!

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2013
    Member:
    #105622
    Messages:
    7,183
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rob
    S. Wisconsin
    Vehicle:
    06 Tacoma, TRD Sport, SR5, 4X4, ACLB
    Frame 2.0, Fog lights mod, Seatbelt reminder delete, Secondary air filter delete, LED bed lights, Running boards, 2017 Rims, Devil Horns by Andres, Ultra gauge, Cup holder/consol/glove compartment lights, Interior LED conversion, Blue Sea aux. fuse panel, fuse panel mounting plate by Yotamac, ProEFX heated towing mirrors, LED engine bay lights, Redline Quicklift Elite hood struts, Wet Okole Heated Seat Covers, Pop and Lock tailgate theft deterrent mod 2.0, Plasti-dip rear bumper. Decal free visors, Washable cabin air filter, Overhead consol auto dimming override switch, BulletProof Fabricating Skid plate.
    Toyota did not build the frames in question. Dana Corp!
     
    BigMau likes this.
  13. Feb 5, 2019 at 1:32 AM
    #3413
    BigMau

    BigMau Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2014
    Member:
    #133314
    Messages:
    7
    Gender:
    Male
    Lords Valley, Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    09 Tacoma SR5 4x4 2.4l
    Leer Cap
    True. My cousin was a master tool & die maker at Dana and helped make the tooling to form those frames. Toyota spec.ed a high strength steel that was not as corrosion resistance as other alloys. He warned his boss and the Toyota engineer concerning this problem at the start of production... they did not seem to care??
     
  14. Feb 5, 2019 at 6:08 AM
    #3414
    Gregman

    Gregman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2010
    Member:
    #29166
    Messages:
    614
    Gender:
    Male
    Freddy Beach, NB
    Vehicle:
    05 DC LB 4x4 SR5

    I think it's better to leave a vehicle outside in cold climates, especially where salt is used because it will experience fewer freeze/thaw cycles. Salt is much more effective when the temperature gets closer to thawing out. Salt is less effective at turning ice to salty water at lower temperatures, like below 15 F (-10 C) or something like that.
     
  15. Feb 5, 2019 at 7:45 AM
    #3415
    ClassicVW

    ClassicVW Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2018
    Member:
    #270821
    Messages:
    430
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    George
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tacoma SR 4x2 DCSB MGM
    Hmmm. Hadn't thought about it like that. Makes perfect sense, but there'll still be quite a few natural (as opposed to garage induced) freeze/thaw cycles every winter anyway, right?
     
  16. Feb 5, 2019 at 8:55 AM
    #3416
    hx989

    hx989 Church of @ODNAREM - Pacific Northwest Chapter

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2016
    Member:
    #177349
    Messages:
    3,583
    PNW
    And every time you drive it cause of the heat from the engine & exhaust
     
  17. Feb 5, 2019 at 3:04 PM
    #3417
    Markcal

    Markcal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2014
    Member:
    #136147
    Messages:
    2,726

    @robssol - You are getting into semantics, Dana can only build what Toyota specification tell them to build, so yeah Dana built a 2 layer frame that they were paid for with Toyota's OK. I ask again, I wonder what the thinking was of Toyota when they made the frame of 2 metal layers instead of just one? :confused:
     
    bobsuruncle likes this.
  18. Feb 5, 2019 at 3:23 PM
    #3418
    ClassicVW

    ClassicVW Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2018
    Member:
    #270821
    Messages:
    430
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    George
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tacoma SR 4x2 DCSB MGM
    We will never know what the thinking was unless the engineer who decided on it comes forward and says : I was that guy and this is why I chose it." Very unlikely.

    The fact that this is a voluntary "warranty extension" by Toyota, and not a forced recall tells me there are plenty of "smoking guns" internal discussions that are in existence w/r/t the choice of frames and would have come out anyway and resulted in a forced recall. Or worse. A corporation just doesn't usually come out and out of the goodness of their heart choose a path that will cost them $3.4 Billion unless the alternative is worse.
     
    Markcal likes this.
  19. Feb 5, 2019 at 3:25 PM
    #3419
    Markcal

    Markcal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2014
    Member:
    #136147
    Messages:
    2,726


    That was my question as you stated in your post, I guess Toyota just didn't care as you stated.
     
  20. Feb 5, 2019 at 3:28 PM
    #3420
    ClassicVW

    ClassicVW Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2018
    Member:
    #270821
    Messages:
    430
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    George
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tacoma SR 4x2 DCSB MGM
    Or, they thought- "So what if we cheapen the frame material? It only has to last the duration of the warranty."
     
    Markcal likes this.
To Top