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Frame rust recall

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by markey, Feb 14, 2013.

  1. Mar 15, 2019 at 7:47 PM
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    obh

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    No offense, just my opinion. Sounds like cleats and sgage are looking for excuses to make justifying their gas guzzlers easier. As we all know, 4wd doesn’t help you stop any quicker, likely the added weight makes stopping distance longer.

    Anyway, in the middle of a snow storm with 2 feet on the ground half way up a hill I’ll take watching my girl and her Mom hop in the truck bed, jump up and down while holding onto the beds sides to get us the rest of the way up the hill. Can’t beat that bonding experience, the result of a an engineers wet dream of a RWD with all the weight in the front.
     
  2. Mar 15, 2019 at 8:08 PM
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    My gas guzzler? My regular cab 4 cyl 2007 4wd Taco? You are really reaching here. Where do you live? Some of us live in the country, in rough country. It's not about stopping any quicker, it's about getting to where you need to go. You don't seem to know what you're talking about. That's OK.
     
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  3. Mar 15, 2019 at 8:13 PM
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    Why you would buy a Tacoma which has shit mileage in all configurations and then worry about the tiny difference in 2wd and 4wd is beyond me :notsure:

    Anyways, I’ve had my truck at 3 dealers so far.

    The one where I bought my truck was beyond useless. I had taken it in for a few recalls before and at the same time some very minor work I didn’t have equipment for and they were unfriendly and not helpful at all. Later on I went in for the rear leaf recall and they wanted me to jump a bunch of hoops to get it done. I asked them to look at the frame while it was there because I knew a big rust hole had formed by the cat on the driver side. They said the tech didn’t find anythingo_O

    I called another dealer to get them to do the leaf springs and they didn’t ask for anything to get it done and even put the blocks back in for me. They looked at the frame and it was approved the same week for a frame swap. This was within a day of taking it between dealers. I guess the hole doubled in size over one day in the summer...

    I got a contract which required moving provinces before the swap would be done. I took it to a dealer in my new town and again it was approved that day for a swap. Waited for the frame for about a month and then the swap was done while I was up at site for a week. They were really communicative and called to put some new parts on while every thing was disassembled. It was 10/10 service.

    2/3 dealers did some awesome customer service. The first one was really frustrating to deal with and wasted lots of my time.

    Sorry for the ramble but my point is if one dealer says no keep trying. It could be one shitty tech who doesn’t care or the dealer. Keep pushing until you find one who does.
     
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  4. Mar 16, 2019 at 8:28 AM
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    My biggest $$ mistake was replacing my LCA's 2 months ago before the frame replacement this past week. New LCA's come with the new frame.
     
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  5. Mar 16, 2019 at 10:02 AM
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    Exactly
     
  6. Mar 21, 2019 at 12:22 PM
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    Check it out. Mechanic was really nice, walked me around the old frame, new frame, engine, transmission, etc. I feel he erred on the side of keeping parts that were fine and only doing work/replacing parts that were necessary. He's going to replace the tension pulley, upper control arms. Great experience at Sanford, NC Toyota.

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  7. Mar 21, 2019 at 12:38 PM
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    Awesome CB setup, TRD leaf springs, matching camper shell...more to come some day.
    dropped my truck off this past monday...hopefully this replacement goes well.
     
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  8. Mar 29, 2019 at 5:45 PM
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    Dealer called today to say they had all the parts. Truck gets the frame replaced on the 18th of April.
     
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  9. Mar 30, 2019 at 4:09 AM
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    I’ve put 10k on mine since frame was done and no issues at all.
    The tech that did mine was awesome I could go around back and just walk in.
    They were good with parts I bought etc.
    Trucks like new again!
    Wish you all a painless swap!
     
  10. Apr 1, 2019 at 6:29 PM
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    In 2015 I had my 2007 inspected at 2 dealerships and they did not find a perforation. They wanted to apply the CRC but I declined as I read online that is was a drippy mess. Fast forward to 3/29/19 at 3 am... for whatever reason I could not sleep so I started cleaning my desk, going through all the papers on it. I found the notice and saw that my last day for inspection was 12 years from the date of first service. The day of first service was 3/29/07. Today was my last day! So I went online to my dealers website and made a 7 am appointment for an inspection. At 8 am I was told that it failed and I would be getting a new frame! They kept the truck and said worst case would be a month wait for the frame (does that sound about right?). I was also told that this is a good time to replace things like struts and shocks as they would be installed for free as part of the frame replacement. I just had to pay for the parts. I purchased Bilstein 5100's for the front and rear to have installed. My Truck only has 52,000 miles on it so I do not think I need to replace anything else (any suggestions?). I plan on having the front struts set at 1.75 and will add a 1" Billet Rear Lift block with new U-Bolts. That should level out the Truck. I hope the dealer will install the lift for free also because all those parts will be taken apart and put back together. Does anyone know what the limits are of what they will do for free and what they wont?
     
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  11. Apr 1, 2019 at 8:02 PM
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    Ok...I just found out last week that my 2010 is eligible for the frame replacement program. The dealer has ordered the parts and said it will take about 8-10 weeks for everything to show up.

    I don’t have time to peruse 174 pages of stuff on this. I do have a couple of questions. I asked them about replacing the shocks while they are in there...they said they would replace the rear shocks gratis as long as I bought them and a half hours labor each side for front shocks. They recommended Bilstein 5100’s and also mentioned for the front to buy a “quick coil” setup...does that make sense?

    The Tacoma is almost completely stock and I’m not interested in any kind of lift in the future.

    To those that have had this done, what else would you recommend. The truck has 123K miles on it. I mentioned possibly having the water pump changed out while they have the motor exposed but they said the motor will stay in the body so it’s not really something that would be easier to do while they have the truck apart.

    Thoughts...suggestions?
     
  12. Apr 5, 2019 at 1:21 PM
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    Congrats!
    I’m guessing by quick coil they may be talking about the coil being already assembled on the shock?
    But there shouldn’t be any charge if it’s all assembled I’d think.

    The lower intermediate steering shaft is a good thing to do this should be included in my opinion but wasn’t when mine was done. I’ve flushed my fluids so I know they were good but if they are leaving your motor in the engine bay not all fluids get flushed. So doing fluids if your not doing them yourself or having it done somewhere else. May want to mention that your pretty sure from what you’ve read ac should have been done, coolant, ps, auto trans, and brake fluid also.

    The sky is the limit depending how anal you are with your truck.
    I did rear shocks, body mounts, sway bar bushings, PS rack hoses and tie rods inner and outer, lower intermediate steering shaft also.
    They include hard lines attached to frame so brake lines and auto trans if it is a auto with fluid change I’d think.
    They also do new lower control arms. Wish I’d gotten new upper control arms and bushings when it was being done.
    Aside from what I purchased from either Amazon or EB south Toyota parts they charged me like 130$.

    My dealer was more than happy to work with me but I also made him aware they were not following the Toyota procedures.
    Pretty sure the motor stays with the frame according to the book!
    Mine stayed in the engine bay also.

    Good luck hope it goes well!
     
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  13. Apr 8, 2019 at 7:51 AM
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    I only have 52,000 miles on my 2007 and have never had any steering problems. Should I still replace this part? I found an aftermarket for $50. Also you mentioned the power steering hoses, never had any problems with that also.
    So far I have purchased Bilstein 5100's front & rear, Energy Suspension 8.4109G Body Mount Set, & Energy Suspension 8.5140R Sway Bar Bushing set. I also would like to replace the drivers front differential bearing with the upgraded Toyota part as I am told that could be a potential problem with a lifted truck.
     
  14. Apr 8, 2019 at 9:27 AM
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    Pretty low mileage congrats!
    The lower intermediate steering shaft has been an issue for lots.
    I don’t think it’s a mileage thing but rust. For me it was both.
    The joint that binds is visible driver front wheel well.
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    I had my needle bearing done after the frame. Complained to dealer I didn’t remember it doing it before. Honestly I didn’t.
    Dealer cut me a deal and did it in a afternoon.
     
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  15. Apr 9, 2019 at 7:20 AM
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    Thanks! I'll stop by the dealer and look at my steering shaft to see its condition and make a decision.
     
  16. Apr 10, 2019 at 2:05 AM
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    Had my steering shaft, shocks and struts done with the frame. No labor charge!
    I was having some binding issues while steering. So it was a no-brainer.
     
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  17. Apr 10, 2019 at 7:41 AM
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    Did you use an OEM part for the steering shaft? The aftermarket ones are so much cheaper but I do not know if they will install an aftermarket.
     
  18. Apr 10, 2019 at 7:49 AM
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    Good luck. Mine goes in on the 22nd.
     
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  19. Apr 10, 2019 at 7:51 AM
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    They shouldn't charge any labor.
     
  20. Apr 10, 2019 at 9:21 AM
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    Stopped by the dealer today and took a good look under my truck. Lower steering shaft looks great, Fuel straps and exhaust have some minor surface rust only so I think they are good. Other than the frame everything else looks OK and not needing replacement. So shocks & struts, 1" billet lift in rear, body mounts and sway bushings, and upgraded toyota drivers front differential bearing.
     

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