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Frame rust recall

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by markey, Feb 14, 2013.

  1. Dec 12, 2015 at 7:34 PM
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    Beaglesridefree

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    Btw, the rear springs are FLAT from hauling firewood and gravel. Can't wait to get them replaced. (Not planning on doing firewood too much anymore.)
     
  2. Dec 14, 2015 at 6:15 PM
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    Has anyone had it fail at one dealer and then brought it to another for the repair? Did it need to fail a second time?
     
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  3. Dec 14, 2015 at 10:27 PM
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    Yes and yes
     
  4. Dec 15, 2015 at 4:23 AM
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    Hi Looking to buy a 2nd gen Tacoma for my son and I'm interested in this frame replacement stuff.

    If I buy a 2ng gen that has rust ( I live in NH, def Cold Weather!) do I qualify for frame repair? Meaning can any owner be it the first, second, third... qualify?
     
  5. Dec 15, 2015 at 4:28 AM
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    Potentially yes, by why put your son in that situation with his vehicle?
     
  6. Dec 15, 2015 at 6:53 AM
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    Just an option to explore, he is 15 today and we have started to research what to buy. At this point the 2 options he likes best is a Tacoma or a Jeep Unlimited, I'd rather see him in a Tacoma so I joined this site to figure out if that really is the right choice AND what year/drive line is best.

    As for this particular problem I been around long enough to know vehicles have problems in many shapes and sizes, body rot, engine failure, faulty suspension , etc. At one point or another you have to pick a problem and deal with it. Admittedly a frame recall seems like alot but it also sounds like Toyota is dealing with this problem by replacing the frame and a majority of the suspension. If that is the case those are items I/he won't need to deal with after buying a used vehicle. I just want to make sure I'm covered if I do go this route. Sounds like the best idea would be to have a toyota dealer do the pre-buy inspection, that way I can get a better feel about the frame condition and that dealers stance on the frame recall.

    I guess another note is we have time..... Something alot of people on this thread don't have which appears to be one of the major aggravations.
     
  7. Dec 15, 2015 at 6:56 AM
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    As long as the vin of the truck is part of the recall, any current owner qualifies for the inspection (and replacement if it fails)
     
  8. Dec 15, 2015 at 6:56 AM
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    Only if you buy 2005-2008 truck and until March next year. After that you are on your own...
    If you buy 2gen that is 2005-2008 and you live in NH you have until March 31 2016 I believe to do inspection
     
  9. Dec 15, 2015 at 6:57 AM
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    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    You still dont have a truck ?
     
  10. Dec 15, 2015 at 9:04 AM
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    So what about 2009-up? Do they have a similar problem?
     
  11. Dec 15, 2015 at 9:10 AM
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    No. New frame from new manufacturer.
     
  12. Dec 15, 2015 at 10:41 AM
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    It's back in the garage. 8.3 months. 3 dealer trips post pickup for little shit and one seal.
     
  13. Dec 15, 2015 at 10:44 AM
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    Did anyone try to trade in at the dealer, when they failed it? Get a new vehicle... let them deal with the frame nonsense, broken parts, technician negligence, etc...

    No reason value should be changed... if they do such good work, it's a new frame, well worth it for them.
     
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    While a valid point, it might be against the rules that Toyota has laid out for the frame swaps. Strictly speaking from a theoretical point of view, of course, since I have no reference to their rules.

    My expectation is that if there was some consistent allowance for trade-in of rotted frame vehicles, there might end up being a glut of used vehicles on the market, OR, they might not be able to keep up with the demand for new ones, blocking new truck buyers from getting them in a reasonable time.

    From Toyota's point of view, I think it is probably most efficient to fix the truck first, and then allow a trade-in once there is less incentive.

    On top of that, if you consider the age of the vehicle -- 2005-2008 is 7-10 years old now. Those are getting up there in age and might be starting to go bad mechanically or in the body shortly, which could mean that they will start being replaced via crushers shortly anyway, regardless of their having a new frame. That means keeping the assembly lines working at a more normal rate and spreading out new truck purchases in a more natural manner.
     
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    If they devalue the truck, based on their junk frames, then they really don't stand behind their products or service
     
  16. Dec 15, 2015 at 11:42 AM
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    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    Most likely, since its the same people and the same process. Metalsa bought Dana frame manufacturing. So its not like this is totally different company making frames. 2009 is just makign around 6 year mark, so complete failures should start after that winter.
    Where are I am 2009 frames look as bad as others. so be prepared that 2009+ will end up wit hthe same issue. Also since there is no longer Dana to cover the cost, if your frame fails on 2009+ you are on the hook for it.
    It costed Toyota $13K to swap my frame. I doubt you will be willing to spend that much on the frame.
     
  17. Dec 15, 2015 at 11:58 AM
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    I had Toyota send me a new letter. Got it last week. No mention of the CRC campaign in the letter. Mine simply states they will inspect the frame, if perforation is found they will determine an appropriate remedy...this makes no sense to me, apparently the salt Utah uses is less corrosive than in the other areas they are coating the frames...(shrugs shoulders). I still plan to have mine inspected, and will then coat it myself in the spring so I know it is done right...wasn't sure I wanted Toyota's CRC applied anyway after seeing some of the sloppy jobs done on other members trucks in this thread.
     
  18. Dec 15, 2015 at 12:00 PM
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    Wow 8 months that is flat out crazy, You would think ater that long truck is perfect / better than new.
     
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    Whats the deadline in your letter ? IS it March next year too ?
     
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    Yeah, March 31, 2016, IIRC.
     

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