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Frame rusted through club

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by BlueT, Jun 26, 2011.

  1. Jun 26, 2011 at 11:43 AM
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    BlueT

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    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    Well I investigated bubble that I found doing wheel bearing last week. Turns out its not simple surface rust. Its frame rusting through inside. Picture says all. Its not official hole yet but it will be soon.
    On the pic you can see area where rust is coming out, surrounding metal is nice and even, rusted metal is all pitted. I painted that spot few times and cleaned but its just keeps coming out. Now short of taking grinder I can not remove rust because its rusted through. I took pictures and will be calling Toyota corp on Monday. But my 2gen officialy had joined my 1gen in crap frame fest.. :mad:
    Also I officialy start 2gen "Frame rusted through" club

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  2. Jun 26, 2011 at 12:22 PM
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    that sucks!:mad:
     
  3. Jun 26, 2011 at 12:24 PM
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    Don't forget where you live man... a little 5 dollar can of undercoating probably would have kept this from ever happening. Can't blame it on all Toyota if you ask me. I'd hope they'll take care of you though. Rust cannot happen if it doesn't have oxygen.
     
  4. Jun 26, 2011 at 12:46 PM
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    Toyota frame paint is pathetic
     
  5. Jun 26, 2011 at 12:49 PM
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    georgeandkanoa

    georgeandkanoa the point is simply this

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    i buy a can of undercoat and spray mine about every 6 months,no rust
     
  6. Jun 26, 2011 at 1:01 PM
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    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    No offense but $5 can of undercoating is only good as substitute for KY ..:rolleyes:
    Look at my frame I have multiple coats of paint. Look at metal surrounding it, it does not even have surface rust, so what I painted works excellent. However this is rusting from within the metal. Maybe due to some different metal embedded into the frame. Who knows but this is nto surface rust hence no amount of undercoating or painting is going to help here. The only way to fix it is to grind the thing and fill the hole with new metal. But then Toyota is going to wash their hands.
    Not sure what to do, should I paint it or leave it like that and go to dealer. :confused:
     
  7. Jun 26, 2011 at 1:04 PM
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    I'd at least take it to the dealer and have it documented for future
     
  8. Jun 26, 2011 at 1:08 PM
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    You can ONLY BLAME TOYOTA.that rust is coming from underneath the paint so undercoating isn't going to help.It is only an 07 not a1940. Why didn't they fix this problem with the 2nd gens when they knew it from 1st gens? My 08 was really really bad.
     
  9. Jun 26, 2011 at 1:41 PM
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    Rust cannot exist without oxygen. FACT. Iron Oxide, its in the name.

    So if you are to blame it on toyota, then you are saying the stock paint is not good enough. It is your responsibility to maintain the truck. Blast, sand, rough it up, whatever, then prep and paint. I've been doing it on mine every year now. Takes very little time utilizing the rattle can method. I always get a little rust around the seams at the end of a year, but certainly nothing major! Its periodic maintenance. Rust happens.

    You can't stand around, watching your truck rust before your eyes then blame it on someone else. I'm not trying to get in a pissing match here but shit like this bugs me, especially the New Englanders, look where the hell you live. Its worse than me driving on the beach EVERYDAY.
     
  10. Jun 26, 2011 at 1:59 PM
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    The stock frame paint is NOT good enough - FACT

    My 09's frame was covered in rust after one winter , chunks of paint falling off after 2
     
  11. Jun 26, 2011 at 2:01 PM
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    Not for nothing, but preventative maintence on a $30,000+ truck, shouldnt include scraping and painting the frame every year. Toyota should fix this problem. How many tacomas do you see on the road everyday, and I bet most of them dont even know what a dipstick looks like, never mind the frame rusting.
     
  12. Jun 26, 2011 at 2:37 PM
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    My point is, he's in New England, I don't think you guys even get to see how bad the roads are there. Its like constantly leaving your truck on a beach all day. Preventative maintenance for ANYONE in the New England area should include cleaning your frame thoroughly at least once a week and treating it once a year. During the winter the roads are constantly WHITE, and we're not talking snow, its all salt!


    Like I said to others times and time again on this forum, if you can't drive or maintain your truck, then you have no business owning a truck.
     
  13. Jun 26, 2011 at 2:41 PM
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    Hard for me to weigh in on this. My frame requires more maintenance than I like...hell, my whole truck requires more maintenance than I like...but then if you look at how I use it, that should be expected.

    New England is hell on vehicles. This is a known fact.

    That said, I don't consider sanding and touching up a few places on the truck once a year a crime either.

    This debate will continue to rage...the only way we're gonna know if 2gen frames are any better than 1gen frames is when 2gens are 15+ years old. Until then, this is all academic.
     
  14. Jun 26, 2011 at 2:44 PM
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    I don't live in New England , I live in Canada .

    None of the other vehicles I have owned have exhibited rust after 6 months .

    Nothing to do with me or whether or not you think I qualify to own a truck , it has to do with Toyota's shit paint job they put on these trucks .
     
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    Toyota should incorperate this into there R&D..Dontchathink?
     
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    kirkofwimbo Say no to Bro

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    It's got LSD man.....
    kinda looks like the paint you've been applying might be holding water. get some POR-15 and be done with it
     
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    Hey Brian,


    You like cashing those Toyota check's for blog entries? Just a few more and the truck will be paid off right. :)

    I looked over my manual a few times. Can you point me to the section where it tells me to repaint the frame. I keep missing it.
     
  18. Jun 26, 2011 at 2:49 PM
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    He owns an 07, thats nearly 5 years old now. If I had a nickel for everytime I heard a rant about 'toyotas shit paint job' or 'fords paint peeling' or any other company for that matter I'd be rich by now. I do not dispute that the paint on the frames sucks, but any monkey with a wrench can look under his truck the next time he changes his oil and inspect for any spots that may need preventative maintenance. I do it EVERY TIME I do an oil change.

    A bubble in the paint of that magnitude could have been caught probably a year before, and it would have never been a serious issue.
     
  19. Jun 26, 2011 at 2:52 PM
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    It's got LSD man.....
    does anyone know how long it took them to recall the first gens?
     
  20. Jun 26, 2011 at 2:53 PM
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    Well , that's what I said .

    Glad we agree
     
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