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from replacing tranny filter to needing a new tranny pan? plz help

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by BluePearlShark99, Mar 14, 2013.

  1. BluePearlShark99

    BluePearlShark99 [OP] because_minitruck

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    i tried to have midas change my tranny filter and pan gasket (i know toyotas don't come stock with one, they use a hi temp sealant) but they told me that my tranny plug was stipped and i would need a new tranny pan. i assume a new pan comes with a new plug. this seems odd to me. anyone have similar issue?

    any suggestions?
    i tried orielly and rockauto, neither had tranny pans
     
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    You would think right, but definitely pan does not come with bolt. separate part.
    On the side note: Most likely MIDAS are the one who stripped the plug and pan.
     
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    BluePearlShark99 [OP] because_minitruck

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    i just don't see why they had to remove the plug, couldn't it drain out the sides of the pan for a bit before they removed the pan? and you're probably right about midas, but i work at a Mobil lube shop next door to them and they hook us up and vice versa.

    i wonder if i could buy i new plug and remove the old stripped plug with some vice grips or if the hole is stripped and the plug would just spin?
    i would hate to buy one from the dealer...
    i found one helpful thread http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/1st-gen-tacomas/60428-transmission-pan-replacement.html
    but i don't know the first thing about having someone cut out the old plug hole and weld in a new one... not much detail is provided :(
     
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    HTX thats Houston Texas right ?
    Mental NOTE to myself: Stay away from MIDAS and Mobil shops while in Texas :D
    Nope, . Transmission pan is made from thin material and when people do corner only they usually bend it so it leaks later.
    If you are not sure how to weld new nut, I would say quit while you ahead. Just get new pan and plug.
    Welding on any used transmission pan is not easy, making it so it does not leak,= short of miracle.

    BTW try new plug first maybe only plug is stripped.
     
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    BluePearlShark99 [OP] because_minitruck

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    lol yeah houston, tx... my lube shop doesn't change tranny filters... just tranny drain and fills and full pressure tranny flushes (minus new filter)
     
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    the stealership near my work wants $160 for tranny pan and plug.
     
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    Not much use in a drain and fill. I figure if I am doing that, I'm going to change the filter while I am in there, or do a full flush. Drain and fills are a waste in my opinion. Drain plugs are there to make the job easier. Cracking loose the pan and letting it leak out until you can remove the pan to finish the job is like draining your engine oil by cracking loose the oil pan bolts and the removing the oil pan. Much easier to drain out a large percentage of the transmission fluid by a drain plug. I always hated doing transmission services before some manufacturers started installing drain plugs. Much easier, cleaner, and lower risk of burning my hands that way! lol.
     
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    makes sense. i was hesitant to do a flush with out changing the filter and gasket because i noticed some seepage around the pan and plug. i figured if the plug was stripped, i could get a new one from work. looks like i'm gunna have to pay dealer prices. no sense in buying a used one and risking it having the same problem. i've had very little luck finding tranny pans online.
     
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    found some tranny pans on jc whitney. should i get aluminum or steel? also is the extra capacity ideal for better cooling? i'm about to start putting my trd s/c kit together and i know i need to keep my a/t cool.
     
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    helicoil it?..
     
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    Pan is probably too thin to helicoil.
    Helicoils work great in thick castings, not so well in stamped steel pans.
     
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    Take the pan off yea I know you just paid to have it flushed but you can flush it at home if you have a few buckets and some ATF. Drill out the hole and tap it, get a plug that fits the correct thread size you tapped. Take that filter out put new one in. Start flushing, its a PITA to say how in text, but ill look for a vid.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT4VJtSnaig
     
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    i haven't paid for any services or flushed it yet (i can do a flush with bulk pennzoil atf for free at work). my concern: will a higher capacity tranny pan need a different tranny filter? also i've never drilled out and tapped anything metal before.
     
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    bizzumpppppppp
     
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    yes, a higher capacity pan will require a modification to your filter, if you want any benefit of the deeper pan. Picture this, You have a straw 1/2 way down into a drink. You can't really drink the stuff below it, because you are drinking from above. yeah, the fluid gets mixed up, but still, no benefit of a deep pan if the filter is not drawing from the bottom.

    If you want to help with cooling, install an aftermarket cooler. I have a customer who has one I installed for him, and he appears to love it.
     
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    thank you. i'll just go with the trans cooler then :)
     
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    picked up a tranny pan from TW member snorkie. thanx again, Chris!! i'll let you know how it turns out.
     
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