Front brake upgrade anyone?

Interested in upgrading my 17 taco front brakes? Did some research and it seems that 5th gen 4runner brakes would work. Has anyone done one on a 3rd gen?

 

3rd gen is basically a pretty 2nd gen, 5th gen Runner brakes will fit on the 2nd gen, they should fit on the 3rd gen. They are indeed larger, this may make your ABS and load sense freak out, also as you have to move more fluid with the same size master cylinder your braking make feel weaker and your pedal will be slightly lower.

 

Did not consider the sensors being an issue. Appreciate your input. Have you done the upgrade on your gen 2?

 

Are Tundra brake upgrades a thing on 3rd gens? A common mod on 1st gens and 3rd gen 4Runners are upgrading to the 231mm Tundra calipers. I have the 13WL Tundra/Sequioa calipers on my '98.

I can imagine the newer generations Tundra has much beefier brakes than the 4Runner or Tacoma.

 

This isn't a concern. The increased braking torque provided by the larger diameter rotors will allow for increased brake force from the same pedal travel, the brakes shouldn't feel weaker.

I would not expect any issues with the ABS/sensors, but have no personal experience specifically with a 2016+ Tacoma and Crawl Control, etc., however I would expect it should be fine. For example, any big brake kit Toyota/Lexus has released has never included a recalibration for the ABS/VSC/etc.

The 2005+ 4WD Tacomas already have the larger brakes that people like to use on the older Tacomas and 4Runners. It wouldn't be an upgrade unfortunately.

Jeff

 

Well, keeping on eye on this thread, as I can't leave anything stock for long and might as well see what's recommended

 

The tundra also has a different lug pattern, so those disks are definitely a no go. But yeah 2nd and 3rd gen tundra disks are beef.

 

Is this quest for bigger/better brakes due to a lack of stopping power from big tires, excessive speed, other?

Or just upgrading to be upgrading?

 

I've done big brake upgrades on several different cars (Ford, Subaru, and VW) and have never had this issue with ABS sensors or weaker brake feel. Why would this be an issue on a Toyota?

 

Sell the turd gen and buy a 4runner

 

Just that, appears to be changing for the sake of change. If you want better response, try a different pad, higher temp fluid or braided brake lines if you think that's needed first.

I've got plenty of stopping power with my OR in stock configuration.

 

Well I have Tundra brakes on my 4runner. The abs kicks in a lot easier. If slightly applying the brakes and you hit any size bump the abs will engage as before they wouldn't. Also they "feel weaker" because the pedal engages slightly lower causing a sponge like feeling brake pedal.

 

Wilwood just came out at Sema with a big brake kit with 6 piston calipers for Tacomas that are made to be used with the stock master cylinder. They also make upgraded brake pads that fit with the OEM brakes. These are the brakes that Jay Leno recommends and uses for his vehicles. The link below will give you more information. Hope this helps.
http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/Br...oyota&model=Tacoma&option=4+x+4+(6+Lug+Wheel)

 

I beg to differ. The brakes on the current gen are just adequate. Fading is the biggest gripe I have with my brakes. Figured upgrading to the slightly bigger setup should help.

 

They are nice but not willing to drop that much on my truck for front brakes. Thanks for the link though, didnt know they made them for the current tacos.

 

Like I said, try a different pads and a higher temp fluid: different compounds react better as brakes heat up reducing fade.

Braided brake hoses resist expansion unlike rubber hoses giving a firmer pedal feel.

Are you towing a lot causing the fade?

 

Im going with the stoptech 6 piston route since they have a 30 percent off sale on them and I got dirties with armor. If you don't have any extra weight, is there a reason why you want to upgrade the brakes? I just want mine to be snappy like how my truck used to be stock, but I got a second gen so who knows if the third gen brakes are different?

 

Fade is heat related.

What are you doing to generate so much excess heat?

 

Not saying it would, just saying it might.

 

seriously, try pads first. if you want more feel while you forcefully modulate, then try SS lines. both these mods are cheap and easily un-doable (is that a word?).

i had a set of $3500 Wilwood racing brakes on my '70 A body with massive rotors and all the stuff. they sent me wrong pads and, until i got those replaced with the correct street use pads, these new high money brakes were unusable. the fix? the correct pads for $115.