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Ft brake lines

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Birdogsetter, Nov 28, 2024.

  1. Nov 28, 2024 at 5:18 PM
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    Birdogsetter

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    I have a 09 taco 4door with a 4.0 ,4wd and a 3in lift. This truck had 25000 on the clock. My problem is it keeps breaking the front metal brake lines at the caliber..Do they make a braided or rubber line that connects to the caliber. Or what's the best fix????
    Thanks
     
  2. Nov 29, 2024 at 6:02 AM
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    Anybody ?????
     
  3. Nov 29, 2024 at 6:08 AM
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    You need to post a picture of your lift showing how the brake line is connected.

    Is it one side or both sides?
    What brand lift is it?
    Did you install the lift or did the previous owner do so?
    Is it factory brakes or have you done a big brake kit?
     
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    Yes, there is a rubber brake hose going into the caliper.
     
  5. Nov 29, 2024 at 8:41 AM
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    There should be a rubber line to the caliper, not a hard line.....
     
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    Post pictures. It's possible the hard line is installed backwards or flipped left and right.

    The caliper flare nut port would require drilling to accept a banjo bolt if you convert to a flex hose.
     
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    6 lug models have non-floating 4-piston calipers. There's a small hard line going from the spindle to the caliper, then a hose from the frame to the spindle.
     
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    Thank you. I just couldn't picture a hard line to a caliper.
     
  9. Nov 29, 2024 at 6:16 PM
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    I didn't install the lift.. The metal line from the abs module then turns to a rubber line then back to a metal line and thats where it breaks... I'll get some pictures tomarrow... What I need is a braided line with a female fitting and a male fitting on the other end...
     
  10. Nov 29, 2024 at 6:57 PM
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    I can get picture of my trunk on Sunday.
    There is a hard brake line from the caliper that has a bracket which bolts to the knuckle, the flex hose starts slightly above this point and goes to the frame where a hard brake line is secured to the frame, this hard line goes to the ABS module.
    If either end of the two hard brake lines are not secured then it will flex and eventually break.
    If your issue is only on one side I recommend comparing the two sides to see what the difference is.
     
  11. Nov 30, 2024 at 1:32 PM
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    I have like 2” lift and extended SS lines. Pretty sure only rears need and come extended for lift.
     
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    Did you post this on a Facebook 2G group? There was someone with almost this exact same issue.
     
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    No only posted this here.... That is my other problem when whoever put the lift on this truck they took all the brake line brackets loose and I guess stretched the brake lines so all the brackets are just loose now and they can't be put back where there suppose to go and others I don't see a spot for them to go.. Who ever done the brake lines were a hack...
     
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    Joeyv141 .. No it's happened on both sides so I have nothing to see how it is suppose to be...
     
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    I finally found these lines. Has anyone used these?? Or a better idea or cheaper these are not cheap at 120.00 a pair...

    And BTW thanks for the help everyone, I'll try to return the favor...
     
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    Hi, sorry it took me so long to take these pics. I highly recommend you post pictures of where your brake lines are breaking.

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  18. Dec 6, 2024 at 7:03 PM
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    It might be prudent to determine why the factory hardlines are failing here. The following assumes it's simply because the prior owner's shoddy lift job causes these lines to be overstressed. They should be properly secured at the knuckle -- if you can't fasten the bracket to the knuckle, then you need custom-bent hardlines to accommodate the lift.

    I believe all the brake lines on these trucks are M10 x 1 inverted flare. I was able to find short length of teflon-coated brake line at my local car parts store... albeit for a Tundra booster upgrade, not replacing the caliper hardlines. I didn't even order them online, so I'm not sure exactly what the part number was, but I think it was this:

    So, you could try bending these to replace the failed OEM hardlines between the caliper and the bracket on the knuckle. Might be too long or too short... hard to say, but these are cheap and readily available. I would recommend getting a cheap tube bender sized for the line, although final adjustments can be made by hand. If you kink it, you have to start over. The line should fit into place without having to force it.

    Edit: Such as this fine specimen, clearly forged from American Steel by Hardworking Americans in Pittsburgh, USA:
    Another option... just take it to a good brake shop, they can bend and flare replacements lines that are perfectly fitted to your lift -- and likely for less than the cost of the fancy braided lines. Nothing against the fancy option, I just think it's unnecessary here.
     
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  19. Dec 6, 2024 at 8:01 PM
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    Its not just fancy soft lines. They actually serve a purpose. Rubber lines will stretch with pressure over time. Plus rubber deteriorates over time.

    Stainless braided do not, giving you a better pedal feel and better performance by not expanding when pressure applies.



    OP, 120 for a pair is not a bad cost. Think about your safety too when you press the brake pedal, and not just your wallet.
     
  20. Dec 6, 2024 at 8:59 PM
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    These are excellent points regarding rubber vs. braided brake lines, but I was talking about the factory hardline that connects between two fixed locations on the unsprung front wheel subassembly using rigid steel tubing.

    It shouldn't be necessary to replace this hardline with an expensive braided line; I think it would be more cost-effective to fit a new custom hardline to accommodate the lifted geometry. If this is not an option, then I agree, a braided flex line would be the next-best option. However, I would be weary about connecting two flex lines end-to-end in this application, where they would be free to flail against the knuckle or other suspension components as you drive. But, if that allowed you rigidly anchor their connection point to the knuckle, similar to how the original hardline was attached, then this would alleviate that concern -- although the braided lines pictured appear entirely too long for such use. Perhaps they are intended to replace the entire length of brake line between the caliper and the frame-mounted hardlines?

    In any case, I'm not arguing against braided flex lines in general, but believe that properly fitted hardlines would be the most cost-effective solution here.


    (With apologies to @fatfurious2 for the inappropriately confrontational tone of my original reply.)
     
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