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Full Body Scans

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by mws4ua, Jan 5, 2010.

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What do you think about the Full Body Scans?

  1. I'm driving from now on.

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  2. That's a violation of my civil liberties!

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  3. I just don't care.

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  4. I'm OK with it, as long as it keeps us safe.

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  5. I like when people look at me.

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  1. Jan 5, 2010 at 9:29 AM
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    mws4ua

    mws4ua [OP] I'll try being nicer if you try being smarter.

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    OK... so the recent security scares at airports have caused the current administration to push for a faster roll-out of 'full body scanners' at airports.

    This is NOT meant to be a political thread. (I'm sure the last administration would have taken the same step, and the next administration, too.)

    What I want to know is... how do you feel about potentially having to pass through these types of scanners? I found a few images of what the security people could see as you stand there:

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  2. Jan 5, 2010 at 9:38 AM
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    tcBob

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    i personally wouldn't have a problem with it
     
  3. Jan 5, 2010 at 9:43 AM
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    usctacoma

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    Its' not like they are doing it for shits a and giggles. They have a good reason to do this and it's for our safety. They have to keep one upping the the level of terrorism. Obviously it is possible to get through security with something so they can't keep letting that happen. Yeah it is kind of violating, but it is a necessary step. I heard you can opt out of this for a full pat down too which is a little better.
     
  4. Jan 5, 2010 at 9:44 AM
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    Caduceus

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    Tell me, how different is this from a physician looking at a naked body? I mean, it's not like doctors go to medical school and are shown dozens of naked bodies in order to get desensitized. Yet most folks would say that getting naked in front of a doc, while a little embarrasing (and certainly chilly), is not usually a big deal (and even less so if you're really hurt or sick).

    I have a feeling that after about 2 days, most of the folks working the scanners wont' give a shit about how big someone's tits are, or how big their junk is, or how many rolls that person is hiding under their shirt. It's human nature to get desensitized a bit after a while. To me, it's the same thing as a radiologist - you can see all sorts of interesting things, but rarely do the docs sit around the monitor and oggle the outline of soft tissue. They will, however, occasionally comment on poor film quality due to "body habitus" ie, big fat bellies.

    I'd be more concerned with how they're getting these images? That could be a LOT of radiation over the years.
     
  5. Jan 5, 2010 at 9:46 AM
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    xJuice

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    At first thought it seems kinda creepy, but these people are going to see thousands of people a day go through it. They won't give two shits what you look like, good or bad. Like doctors see you in full nekkid HD, whereas these guys see a rough shape of your body, they're just doing their job at hand.

    Edit: ^^ he posted it first :p
     
  6. Jan 5, 2010 at 9:48 AM
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    I think that i will save the government some money and just fly naked.
     
  7. Jan 5, 2010 at 9:52 AM
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    I've got a great body- They can look all they want.

    Not to mention the guy looking at the scan does not also look at the person being scanned and they having no way to store or print the images. It's just as "dirty" to get frisked or wanded.

    And you do have the option to drive if you don't like it-It'll make the lines shorter for them scan me!!
     
  8. Jan 5, 2010 at 9:52 AM
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  9. Jan 5, 2010 at 9:57 AM
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    It's all part of my master plan. :drevil:
     
  10. Jan 5, 2010 at 9:58 AM
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    Not a lady, but I do have two prosthetic legs and it's a pain in the ass to go through airport security. I have to get the full pat down down every time I fly. I'm wondering if it would work with someone with prosthetics. I'm all for not getting blown up on a plane.
     
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    I don't love the idea, but if it keeps some jackass from carrying a weapon or bomb on my plane, I'm OK with it. I hope it goes quickly, though. Security lines are already too long.

    It does piss me off that terrorists have succeeded in disrupting our lives like this, though.


    It sucks for anybody w/ metal parts in their body, but I don't see the alternative. If all they did was check the card, a terrorist could pack a gun then provide a fake medical card and get on a plane with no problem. I hate that it inconveniences your wife (and my grandfather, while he was living), but it's just one of those things, you know?
     
  13. Jan 5, 2010 at 11:14 AM
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    I always like to leave a positive impression. I'll stop off in the bathroom and "chub up" a bit before walking through the scanner. :thumbsup:
     
  14. Jan 5, 2010 at 11:20 AM
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    I've heard two interesting thoughts brought up concerning this.

    The first is that the TSA is the equivalent of a McJob and the folks working aren't going to pay any more attention to this than they do to anything else. Human error will always come into play and weapons will continue to get through.

    The second I find more interesting as it's law vs. law. Children will walk through this same scanner and images are saved. There's an argument that this will create images considered to be child pornography and the TSA McJobbers will be paid to sit there and view it all day long. Where would the boundary be drawn between safety of the passengers and Chris Hansen crowd?
     
  15. Jan 5, 2010 at 11:20 AM
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    HAHA I give no shit if they want to use them. Do it!
     
  16. Jan 5, 2010 at 11:30 AM
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    Seeing the third gen section forced me to get a Ford...
    if people dont want to be held accountable for the security of the rest of the passengers on the plane, DRIVE! some people seem to forget that flying isnt a right, its a priviledge...the same speech they give kids about riding the bus to school.
     
  17. Jan 5, 2010 at 11:35 AM
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    All they need to do is hire a bunch of really hot young girls to strip search the men and a bunch of hot young guys to search the woman and everybody would be happy. Heck, I'd fly somewhere every weekend.
     
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    I'm not a big fan of this, but I understand why we may have to do this. But I hope that anyone can opt out for a full pat down by security officials, I'm not sure what the policy is on that. If they can do it at all airports or what.

    However I think we really need to train these officials to not only focus on these scanners but to also profile for behavior. To recognize nervous people, human behavior, etc.

    I also think we need to test some of these airport officials for lack of common sense. The guy from the x-mas attack only had a one way ticket, no passport I think, and lack of proper papers. If this is not suspicious, than I don't know what is.
     
  19. Jan 5, 2010 at 11:44 AM
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    Seeing the third gen section forced me to get a Ford...
    i think at one point they were discussing that...the pat down OR body scan. they should have picked up that the kid was flying from nigeria to detroit w/ no bags, no passport, and paid cash.....hmmmmmm
     
  20. Jan 5, 2010 at 11:46 AM
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    Full body scans are not a problem for me if it keeps planes from being blown up or crashed. However, it's all just window dressing in my opinion. The real answer to the problem lies in the intelligence community. They must continue the hard work of identifying the terrorists to keep them out of the airports and in the morgue. The Christmas Day terrorist attack over Detroit should never had happened in the first place and the terrorist should never had made it to Amsterdam either.
     

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