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Full suspension or ARB locker

Discussion in 'Arizona' started by extremachn1, Aug 22, 2011.

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What should I do???

Poll closed Sep 21, 2011.
  1. ARB Air locker and onboard air!

    44.4%
  2. Full bad-ass suspension!

    54.3%
  3. Something else (state what you think)!

    1.2%
  1. Aug 23, 2011 at 8:47 AM
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    Zombie Runner

    Zombie Runner Are these black helicopters for me?

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    oil change...
    locker. you already have new shocks and springs.
     
  2. Aug 23, 2011 at 8:52 AM
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    David K

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    His is a SPORT... so he doesn't have A-TRAC (if he did, then he wouldn't need lockers and he could do the suspension without having to pick). There is no waiting for A-TRAC more than a second or two. It is TRAC that allows some spin before engaging.

    Because it is a SPORT and you want to Off Road, then the rear locker is what will do you the most good. You already have the 4 low trac mod for the front. My '05 and '01 both had a rear locker and open front, and they took me to all the extreme places I wanted to go. You have limited slip in the front, so you should be fine for extreme 4x4.

    Now, I have to ask... if you wanted to do serious off roading, why did you buy a Sport... the looks?

    Have a good time in your truck!
     
  3. Aug 23, 2011 at 8:55 AM
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    OZ-T

    OZ-T You are going backwards

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    OMG
     
  4. Aug 23, 2011 at 8:59 AM
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    It is a serious question... I am wondering if he was mislead by the salesman, like so many other Sport owners I have talked to? He is now having to decide on adding to the Sport's traction or doing a suspention upgrade. If he bought an Off Road, he would have a locker and A-TRAC and that would let him not need to decide on what to spend limited resources on.
     
  5. Aug 23, 2011 at 9:04 AM
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    fireturk41

    fireturk41 I like to break shit!

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  6. Aug 23, 2011 at 9:13 AM
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    everytime you say A-TRAC do you get off or something?

    maybe he wanted the sport because of the hood and what ever else comes in it that the off road doesnt have???
     
  7. Aug 23, 2011 at 9:17 AM
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    XPOTRPR

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    I'm pretty sure he just got a good deal on it with everythig he added.. S/C, rims, etc. Or It was the only one on the lot. Either way.. he still wheels it like it should be. Lol
     
  8. Aug 23, 2011 at 9:45 AM
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    extremachn1

    extremachn1 [OP] I am an asshole, deal with it!

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    I bought the sport for a couple reasons. 1 was looks but that wasnt my major concern. Mainly it was avaliability. I wanted a double cab 6 spd 2010 in white or green. This was the only one left west of the mississippi that met all of my needs. Plus at the time I had not really used the locker in my 2005 much at all and I was not aware of the addition of Trac and A-trac.

    I could have waited and gotten a 2011 OR but for the deal I got his one for 31,500 new out the door with supercharger, exhaust, intake, 10 year warrenty, and a few other goodies I couldnt pass it up.

    I traded my 05 in with super low miles for almost 20. Then I let them finance me at 10.9% for the remainder. Trust me, I know thats a horrible amount but you will understand why here in a second. So the dealer thought they were going to make a lot of money back from me on financing. Then when the first payment came due I walked into the dealer and wrote a check for payment in full. They were pissed but I made sure that there was no penelty for early payment.

    So thats why I bought a sport instead of an offroad.
     
  9. Aug 23, 2011 at 9:52 AM
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    OZ-T You are going backwards

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    You misled the dealer !!

    Lol

    Holy role reversal Batman
     
  10. Aug 23, 2011 at 9:54 AM
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    G scott04 ...

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    Hmmm I think you should buy presents for the Az members instead!!
    :humble::humble:
     
  11. Aug 23, 2011 at 9:55 AM
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    Thank you, perfect answer... I am sure you will turn your Tacoma into the perfect off road machine!
     
  12. Aug 23, 2011 at 9:57 AM
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    Pugga Pasti-Dip Free 1983 - 2015... It was a good run

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    That's awesome! It's good to see when the consumer pulls one over on the stealership just when they think they have you by the balls :D

    I voted locker. From your first post it sounds like you're having more issues with traction than you are with clearance. Are you locking front and back? If so, that'd be a pretty badass set-up. :cool:
     
  13. Aug 23, 2011 at 10:00 AM
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    Payback is sweet... the dealer did not tell him any of the Off Road's advantages in order to sell him a Sport...

    If he had known about A-TRAC it may have been a different story today?

    I wonder why the push of the Sport trucks is so great that salesmen don't try and promote the Off Road... unless in today's market that fake hood scoop is just so much of a draw? God, I hope they don't put it on the Off Road in the future!!:eek: LOL
     
  14. Aug 23, 2011 at 10:13 AM
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    OZ-T You are going backwards

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    You do tend to assume a lot .
     
  15. Aug 23, 2011 at 10:34 AM
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    Manwithoutaplan

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    haha love it a-trac right away.
     
  16. Aug 23, 2011 at 10:44 AM
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    Hahaha.. never fails.. :) I could read Christian's and David k's posts all day.
     
  17. Aug 23, 2011 at 10:53 AM
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    You literally can't.. lol.
     
  18. Aug 23, 2011 at 11:08 AM
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    extremachn1 [OP] I am an asshole, deal with it!

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    Your right, its not. I walked into the dealership and told the guy I want a sport or offroad 4x4 doublecab 6spd, these colors, these options, this is what I am paying out the door. I dont care about your kids or wife, I dont care about anything other than the final price, your not my buddy, I dont trust you, and you dont have to sell me on the truck. I know what is avaliable where, I know your purchase price, the MSRP, the incentives, the dealer hold back, and how much the accessories actually are. We are not talking about a trade in or financing until we have an out the door price, understand?

    This was litterally my opening line to the salesman. He just kind of stood there not sure what to say.
     
  19. Aug 23, 2011 at 11:10 AM
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    extremachn1 [OP] I am an asshole, deal with it!

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    It wasnt that the dealer didnt inform me, I just failed to look for any updates. I just assumed the truck really hadnt changed since 05. It wasnt so much about sport vs offroad and the dealer pushing one or the other. It was avaliability of either one. I didnt want a 2011, I wanted one of the last 2010's as I was able to push for a better deal.
     
  20. Aug 23, 2011 at 11:14 AM
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    extremachn1 [OP] I am an asshole, deal with it!

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    I am an asshole when it comes to buying stuff. I research exactly what I want and I can usually out talk/argue/debate most people. All my friends call me to wheel and deal with car dealers for them and other large purchases. I have walked away from a price differance of $10 over a motorcycle before because he wouldnt come down to my price. Plain and simple, I dont NEED to buy your product, I would like to buy it but if you wont deal, someone will sell me what I want for the price I want it for. I only buy from places that salesmen make comission from and I am a return customer to the same salesman if I work a good deal. I only get my home electronics from one guy at a video only because he makes comission and I can wheel and deal with him. He is more willing to make a deal because he gets a cut of it so the better deal he cuts means stuff I get from him the more money he makes.
     

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