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Full time 4wd option?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by RatDaddy, Mar 29, 2021.

  1. Mar 30, 2021 at 12:42 PM
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  2. Mar 30, 2021 at 2:32 PM
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    yeah, it reminds me of the 1970- 1980's american cars and kinda drives like one. It is larger inside than it even looks and it looks big. But like all Hondas (except for the old NSX and S2000), it just lacks excitement.
     
  3. Mar 30, 2021 at 2:46 PM
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    I had an '87 CRX-HF for a hot minute that was pretty exciting. The size of a go kart with all of the power and less of the protection. Getting passed by a modern civic on the highway shook the car like it was drafting a semi going 90. I watched the temperature gauge climb up at stop lights and ease back down as I accelerated because the radiator fan didn't work. The final straw was when I jacked it up to rotate the tires and the jack went through the floorboard. Turns out the jack points have a tendency to rot...
     
  4. Mar 30, 2021 at 5:40 PM
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  5. Mar 30, 2021 at 8:17 PM
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    Doubt it. Tesla's electric motors give the same real world numbers compared to what is advertised. Actually, "power motor puts up in the factory" vs. "power it can provide at the tires" should be better for an electric motor vs. gas motor. Gas motors need transmission, diff, transfer case ect., which eats up some of the HP. For example, 3.5 engine on Tacoma is rated 278 HP, but the truck puts about 230 hp on a dyno. Electric motors do not need transmissions, they very rarely have diffs or transfer cases (few examples are single motored 4wd EVs. Most just have two or four motors and eliminate the need for diff and t-cases). About engine power going down over time. If doubt this will happen as well (at least in reasonable timeframes), an electric motor has close to zero moving parts, so the wear is minimal.
     
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  6. Apr 3, 2021 at 11:30 AM
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    We had a Chevy Avalanche a few years ago that was a great larger truck. Only downsides were large and poor MPG. It had 2WD, 4WD-hi, 4WD-lo and AWD. I think the downsides are pretty minimal if you can support the extra cost, and since people seem willing to pay just about anything for trucks these days, should be doable.

    I agree with the above poster re’ variable conditions on the road in winter. I have to use 4WD in my neighborhood cause the plowing is lousy, then switch to 2WD on the main roads and highway, then switch back to 4WD when going into a parking lot. And 4WD is horrible for tight turning such as in the parking lot.

    They definitely need to add this with the next redesign, otherwise Toyo will see their market share eaten into by competitors.
     
  7. Apr 3, 2021 at 11:39 AM
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    Huh, just imagine how much worse the MPG would be...
     
  8. Apr 6, 2021 at 11:01 AM
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    It'd be hard to get much worse than the Tacoma and Tundra in their segments. Main problem they need to fix IMO.

    The Avalanche I mentioned above (5.3L engine) had variable valve timing and got 15/21 mpg--quite a bit better than the Tundra and almost as good as the Tacoma.
     

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