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Future father with suspension problem needs help

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by DDZPyrite, Mar 13, 2012.

  1. Mar 14, 2012 at 8:36 AM
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    DDZPyrite

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    Yes, I did read your comment and I actually checked them yesterday (forgot to mention that). They were 29 psi in front and 30 psi in rear (door sticker says 29f 32r) so I inflated 2 psi in there rear. Not much difference though thanks anyway.

    BTW who/what is OP?
     
  2. Mar 14, 2012 at 8:38 AM
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    You should either have the same pressure in the rear or a little lower than the front. The back end is a lot lighter than the front and doesn't need as much pressure unless you're towing or hauling. I'd drop them all to around 29 - 30 PSI (not that 2 PSI makes too much of a difference).
     
  3. Mar 14, 2012 at 8:47 AM
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    tint, dents, scratches, two blown speakers and trying to pay her off...
    how about some billstiens 5100's all around, with the front set at 0 with some OME 885 coils? add zombies suggestion of the 3 leaf pack and it should be much better. . . :notsure:
     
  4. Mar 14, 2012 at 8:50 AM
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    you shouldnt need to lift the front if you dont want. The tsb leaf pack adds around 1.5" of lift and most people dont lift their trucks with that.

    if you remove the OL, that will drop the back around 1/2" to 3/4", add the 1.5" 3 aal pack and you only gain maybe an inch. that would be lifting it less than what the standard TSB pack would.
     
  5. Mar 14, 2012 at 8:51 AM
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    I'd probably even do the 884 coils if he is wanting it softer.
     
  6. Mar 14, 2012 at 8:58 AM
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    The 1.5" with the Wheeler's AAL I thought was with the overload leaf in place (that's how it is with the Icon 3-leaf version). I kept the overload in place and gained a lot closer to 2" in the rear.

    I suppose you could lift the rear 1.5" and not do anything with the front but it'll look weird unloaded I'd think...

    885's and 884's have the same spring rate, both being higher than stock.
     
  7. Mar 14, 2012 at 9:12 AM
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    I don't know the difference between the ride quality of the models but personally I like the way my 08' trd sport rides both before and after my lift (OME lift w/885's..)

    BUT my opinion as a girl- She's only 10 weeks and is complaining about the ride quality.. Maybe swap some stuff out like everyone is saying or wait for the newness to settle but I wouldn't go for a lift just yet. Point being, can you imagine being 8-9 months prego and trying to hop in a lifted truck?? Even just a small lift? I plan to rock it "one day" but I can imagine how bad it could suck...
     
  8. Mar 14, 2012 at 9:17 AM
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    I cut some wires here. Added some wires there.
    Why does it have to be an 885 or 884 at all?

    Try calling Moog's customer service. I see their name everywhere for oem replacements. I'd bet money they have a coil with the same diameter and hight, you just a different rate.
     
  9. Mar 14, 2012 at 9:26 AM
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    OME is soft as butter!! My prego has no issues getting in or out either...just grap the OS handles on the way up!!
     
  10. Mar 14, 2012 at 9:57 AM
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    I cannot even believe that anyone is suggesting an off-road suspension such as OME or any other spring/coil combination to you when you already find the ride stock out of the box is already too stiff.

    All these springs, including the "legendary" OME, have stiffer spring rates than stock! Some of them are MUCH stiffer!!

    The only time an off road suspension "improves" the ride is:

    1. You LIKE a "firmer" more "in control" feeling and do NOT like the "floating" feeling.
    2. You're loaded so heavily, or on such a rough road, that you're hitting the bumpstops. That's the situation the stiffer off road suspension is designed for, and comes into its element. But that does NOT sound like what's happening here.

    Now, the TRD Off-Road does have a "progressive" spring/shock in the front. So if you want to swap front spring/shocks with an SR5 or TRD Sport owner, that might be a win for you. Maybe.

    Easiest answer? As suggested above, throw a couple hundred pounds of sandbags in the back over the axle. If that doesn't do it for you - take your wife's car for the duration of the pregnancy.
     
  11. Mar 14, 2012 at 10:29 AM
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  13. Mar 14, 2012 at 11:45 AM
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    Here's an easy thing to try: try driving more gently. I remember when wife was pregnant she was also very sensitive to rough rides. So I changed my driving style, accelerating more softly, braking easier, turning slower. Did wonders for the mrs.
     
  14. Mar 14, 2012 at 11:54 AM
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    Hmm... I guess the Wheeler's and Icon 3-leaf AALs are different afterall! Everyone kept telling me their the same but the Icon gets you 1.5" with the OL removed.

    My TSB set was kind of disappointing. I didn't really notice a real gain in height and it flattened out pretty quickly. I never really experienced the big height gain that others got post TSB. :notsure:

    The difference between the 884's and 885's is 10mm in coil height or just under 1/2". Both have the same spring rate. Spring rate only jumps with 886's, they're 10mm taller yet and are a lot stiffer.
     
  15. Mar 14, 2012 at 11:55 AM
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    THANK YOU BJ MOOSE!!! That's what I've been trying to say!
     
  16. Mar 14, 2012 at 12:29 PM
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    gotcha. thanks for schoolin me on the OME's :cool:

    for the rear I had a toytec 1.5" aal. I ditched that and the OL and added the wheelers 3aal and my rear end stayed the same height.

    aw fuck, I'm confusing myself now. I need sleep
     
  17. Mar 14, 2012 at 12:33 PM
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    :thumbsup:

    I agree with you though, the 3-leaf AALs are like butter!
     
  18. Mar 14, 2012 at 9:33 PM
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    In general a lift is the LAST thing you need! Just cruised in a work friends stock TRD it's an 04 but it was pretty soft but nothing compared to a car.....that's what you have to remember! Its possible she's real sensative right now and you'll just be constantly chasing a soft feel and never find it with a lift!
     
  19. Mar 14, 2012 at 10:55 PM
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    Thank you all for the responses. It seems there are differences in opinion regarding the Bilstein 5100. I certainly don't want a "floating" feel to my ride because I know that will not crossover to off road terrain very well, which will defeat the whole purpose of getting the OR package in the first place. I was hoping the Bilstein 5100 would be the answer.

    I will certainly adjust my driving habits to suit my wife's needs. I'm also gonna wait to see if the ride improves after it gets broken in. I've been intentionally driving over pot holes and rough patches in the rode to expedite the break-in period. If I get a chance I will take a trip to the trails and try "flexing" the suspension as one poster suggested. (the break-in theory sounds logical enough to me to try it)

    With all the information I have received, I am extremely interested in the Bilstein 5100. I don't know anyone locally that has them, so I can't take a test ride. Overall the consensus seems to be favorable and so I will do more research regarding this product. Again thank you all for your comments it is greatly appreciated.
     
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    I was looking forward to the awnser to your question. Did you ever try any of these guesses and did any of them give you the results you were looking for?
     
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