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Gen 3 Towing Thread

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by TacoJonn, Jan 28, 2016.

  1. Apr 15, 2019 at 8:00 PM
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    Raeburn

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    Yeah you'll be more vulnerable to cross winds for sure but 3800 dry means the truck should still be equal to or close to the trailer weight. Aerodynamic drag will definitely be a factor compared to the boat. Means slower speed, less mpg and more gear hunting. But still totally towable
     
  2. Apr 26, 2019 at 3:10 PM
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    I'm at a bit of a crossroads with this.

    I am going though the grief of dealing with the fact of very recently finding out I either have to pony up $15,000 for a new frame on my 05 with 194K on it or "manage" my expectations of a 3rd gen with the 3.5L. Since 2009 I have had a 1,000 pound when full pop up camper on my SC'd Tacoma for work. It's not just the TRD either, smaller pulley, cam gears, 7th injector, full headers and exhaust, etc. It is running better than ever and puts out 407HP and 415tq.

    So today I first took a spin in a TRD Pro with the 6 speed manual, took the sales guy for a ride in my truck, then did the 6 speed auto and finally a 5.7L Tundra. On the upside, I LOVE the new tech and interior....but it ended rather abruptly there. My truck blew the doors off of all of them, super smooth and responsive torque from idle with no where near the pedal input I had to give the 3.5L, the sales guy was stunned and this was with heavy rock sliders, big load range E tires, etc. I guess I had gotten used to all that go fast and thought the delta would be much smaller but it is literally night and day. I mainly use the power down low to hill climb, pass and finesse rough off road, not to race at the top of the RPM range.

    I am going to dig around a bit more about things like pedal commander and OVtune but my god, spending $15,000K on a truck I know like the back of my hand over the new Taco is *actually* looking to be the better investment for my niche needs, I am simply not going to be able to duplicate it.

    Thus far, I am not at all impressed with the 3.5 and to add to this, my ride gets 22MPG when the camper is not on.

    Any real world thoughts on how to make this new platform perform better?
     
  3. Apr 26, 2019 at 3:14 PM
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    OVTune is completely worth it. The tunes aren’t perfect but they are getting better. Anything beats the stock tune. I drive with the 91 performance tune and it’s not even the same truck.
     
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  4. Apr 26, 2019 at 3:19 PM
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    Kodachrome

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    That is what I keep reading but the difference made the head sales guy admit he was a bit embarrassed, it is *huge*. I am thinking at this point I would not get squat for my truck any way so I am going to go to my off road shop, have them go over my frame and box it and I will keep the 05 for dirty work and rough stuff, it is truly a remarkable truck.
     
  5. Apr 29, 2019 at 6:39 PM
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    I am a motocross guy wanting to get the most out of my taco with out hurting it for hauling around a toy hauler

    What do you guys thing about this new toy hauler coming out, see specs below.

    There’s a smaller option I know my taco would be fine with but if I will be able to tow this model comfortably, this is the one I’d like to spend my $$ on as it’ll be a long term set up.

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  6. Apr 30, 2019 at 10:57 AM
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    The dry weight of this toy hauler appears to be 4488. My trailer is 3850 dry but when fully loaded with everything for just camping I sit between 5k-5500lbs. The truck will pull it but I wouldnt go more than that. You still have your toys and supplies to load up.
     
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  7. Apr 30, 2019 at 6:31 PM
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    Any of you that commonly pull trailers in the mountains are in hot climate do you bump to 30 weight oil. I ask this because the manual mentions going with a higher viscosity oil in such conditions.
     
  8. Apr 30, 2019 at 7:26 PM
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    I tow maybe once a month or so. I also run full synthetic and replace every 5k miles. I kept oil the same. It did just fine a couple weeks ago pulling it up to the desert at 95 degrees and through some big passes.
     
  9. May 1, 2019 at 2:59 AM
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    OVTuned and "trail damaged"
    Sorry if this has been answered before, but I was surprised last minute with a teardrop rental (nuCamp t@g) to spend the next week camping in Utah and Colorado. I have a 2018 OR with towing package and manual tranny. I’ve never towed anything before, my question is, do I need a brake controller for this trip? I’m reading this teardrop is about 1000 (but perhaps 1300 with all the bells and whistles) lbs with electric brakes. Not sure if I’ll be able to snag some kind of a wireless break controller beforehand since I’m supposed to leave in a few hours on this voyage. Any help or tips is greatly appreciated. Thank you!!!
     
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  10. May 1, 2019 at 4:34 AM
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    With as little weight as it is you may not need it. Maybe some of those downhills I would recommend to help stop easier. Getting one installed is not a bad idea.
     
  11. May 1, 2019 at 2:23 PM
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  12. May 1, 2019 at 3:53 PM
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    I thought all 3G's were pre-wired for a 7-pin and a brake controller even if the factory tow package was not installed.

    Anyway, in this 2G thread, OP has a pic where the 4 and 7 pin connectors are pre-wired in but not connected because the truck doesn't have the Class IV hitch and rear bumper with 4 and 7-pin outlet. https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/factory-7pin-trailer-harness-installation.390335/
     
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  13. May 6, 2019 at 8:45 AM
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    OVTuned and "trail damaged"
    Installed brake controller but it never registered as having anything connected. Worked out fine, but would’ve been nice to have especially over the summits.

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  14. May 6, 2019 at 9:12 AM
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    Towing our wake boat, approx weight 3300 lbs... With the lift and bigger tires she SCREAMED the whole way home down the highway. :turtleride:
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  15. May 6, 2019 at 9:33 AM
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    I have a brake controller and it does not show anything unless you press the brake pedal.
     
  16. May 6, 2019 at 10:00 AM
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    This showed a specific indication (per the manual) on the display that it didn’t register as having anything connected.
     
  17. May 15, 2019 at 10:23 PM
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    Yikes, that's a big girl. I assume 19 foot body and 25 foot total length? At 4500 pounds dry, you will soon be pushing the 6400-6800 max tow weight of the truck when loading water, food, gear, and bikes.

    I suggest looking into a custom toy hauler from Dune Sport before anything. They are usually cheaper than pre-made small toy haulers depending on what options you want.
     
  18. May 28, 2019 at 2:10 PM
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    Did my first tow of any length with our casita. We went about 400 miles each way with about 300 each way on the interstate between Utah and Idaho. I went between 70-73 mph and on that we averaged between 14-16 mpg. Going from Boise to Donnelly through the mountain roads going much slower we averaged about 16 on the way up and about 18.5IMG_3741.jpg on the way back. I can get more accurate mileage a bit later after I do all of the calculations. It towed really well with just an anti-sway bar and brake controller.
     
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  19. Jun 6, 2019 at 10:02 AM
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    I just bought a used 2012 Casita SD and am about to start doing some camping. Did you feel like you needed a weight distribution hitch at all or was anti-sway enough? Which brake controller did you end up using?
     
  20. Jun 6, 2019 at 10:16 AM
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    I’ve always had 3/4 ton trucks. I towed with until my Tacoma. My Tacoma felt like it struggled with my quads and side by side behind me on my 16’ trailer. It’s #3800 loaded.
    I just bought an Anderson weight distribution hitch and put a set of timbrens’ in the rear.
    Single two best things automotive related I have ever spent money on.
    It was a whole different truck. I cannot understate how dramatic the difference was. Seemed like even the motor didn’t struggle as much, I know a hitch has nothing to do with engine performance but the damn truck just moved the load so much easier and handled it so much better.
    The Anderson isn’t cheap but I couldn’t give it a higher recommendation. It “locks” the trailer in with its tension system, it makes the truck and trailer feel like one unit. Plus the ball moves with the trailer coupler instead of the coupler rotating on top the ball, seems like this really stopped that feeling of the trailer “ pushing” the back end of my Tacoma around turns.
    Worth checking out
     
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