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Gen 3 Towing Thread

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by TacoJonn, Jan 28, 2016.

  1. Jul 30, 2021 at 10:14 AM
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    MaverickT883

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    Yes I'm slightly over the payload. Rv is 3200 with current load (around 370 tounge), bike is 200, misc. shit in the bed is 200, I'm 200, and another 150 of stuff in the cab puts me at around 1100lbs, my truck is rated for 1050, oh well, won't kill me. I do want airbags soon just for headlight aiming if anything tho. 4 hour trip coming up when I get off work.

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  2. Jul 30, 2021 at 11:28 AM
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    We have a '16 DCSB with factory tow package. We tow our boat that tips the scales at just under 5,000 lbs. fully loaded with 1/2 tank of fuel, 330 lbs. tongue weight with very effective disc style surge brakes. These numbers put us at just over 75% of the Taco's rated towing capacity.

    As I said earlier, the Tacoma has the factory installed tow package and I've installed the largest trans. fluid cooler I could fit in the space available and piped it in series with the OEM tow package cooler and I tow with the thermostat pinned open. Stock tires, no lift.

    Obviously we have very little wind resistance to deal with and the vast majority of our towing is done on flat land. All of that said our Taco handles the boat remarkably well. With the trans. cooler installed and the thermostat pinned the highest trans. fluid temps. we've seen is 176°F with atmospheric temps. at 85°F+. Our fuel mileage is normally 11-12 MPG computed at fuel fill-up. We tow in S4 at all times and very rarely does the truck downshift on hills and overpasses.

    The rear sag is negligible but it does sag a bit. Not enough, in my opinion, to warrant air bags, Sumo Springs or a WDH.

    Prior to purchasing our Taco the highway stability was a bit of a concern but after around 1,000 miles of towing I feel very secure and my wife has zero trepidations about towing our boat. My wife is the true acid test since she's quite sketchy about driving anything that is the least bit unstable.

    Our Taco jerks the boat out of the water with little effort and zero wheel spin even without FWD engaged on the steepest of launching ramps. We're very satisfied!
     
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  3. Aug 30, 2021 at 1:50 PM
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    I’m at 3,250 dry. Not sure of TW, but I estimate 500-550. I think a 600/6000 WDH will work… any thoughts on your 600/6000?
     
  4. Aug 30, 2021 at 2:28 PM
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    What lb rating on the Husky are you using?
     
  5. Aug 30, 2021 at 5:09 PM
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    Towed a uhaul enclosed full of moving stuff the other month, pretty funny to be body rolling around corners while towing. This was before I added another trans cooler/pinned the trans tstat, and it did not like me floored up hills with 35s :rofl: Towed pretty good otherwise.

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  6. Sep 1, 2021 at 6:49 AM
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    Thank you for your honesty. I appreciate it.
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  7. Sep 1, 2021 at 7:39 AM
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    Nothing major yet. Just some small details.
    Recently did a 200 miles round trip with 1,800 pound trailer and about 1,300 lbs on the trailer (plus probably another 200lbs of stuff in cabin including me) and surprisingly wasn’t too bad at all. I got 15.7 mpg and had no issues. The truck didn’t seem to squat too bad.
     
  8. Sep 4, 2021 at 6:10 PM
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    can a tow package be installed after market maybe ?
     
  9. Sep 5, 2021 at 4:33 PM
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    @Phich thank you for the detailed post. Unfortunately for me that sounds like bad news. I am looking to buy a 3500 lb Winnebago travel trailer, which is very similar to the geo. I follow a guy online who tows the Winnebago micro Minnie with a Colorado avalanche and does fine, or doesn't complain.

    So, if I'm looking to buy this trailer. You wouldn't suggest towing with Taco and upgrade to Tundra?
     
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  10. Sep 5, 2021 at 4:37 PM
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    Thank you for the details

     
  11. Sep 5, 2021 at 9:33 PM
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    Phich

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    Man, there are so many factors regarding towing that it's useless to offer advice - better to simply state personal experiences and let people draw what they will from them, hence my towing post.

    Some people are truly not bothered by staying in 3rd and 4th gear for hours on end with the revs whining like crazy while maxing out at 65mph and getting 8mpg. It drove me NUTS. Again, the Tacoma can do the job just fine, it's just that there are many other vehicle options that are WAY better than the Tacoma for towing wind-blocking RV's. The idea of towing my old GeoPro with my Tacoma to Colorado or Utah from south central Texas almost literally gives me anxiety.

    A Tundra will tow much better and get slightly better mpg while being able to maintain up hills without bogging down to 55mph.

    Look into pop-up's and A-frames. Some are VERY nice and even if they are 4000lbs loaded, you don't have that nasty wall of wind resistance, which is the main reason for the abysmal towing in the Tacoma. They are just a bit more work in setting up and taking down, but well-worth the better drive in my opinion.

    Good luck sir!
     
  12. Sep 6, 2021 at 6:23 AM
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    Towing is about safety and not speed.
     
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  13. Sep 6, 2021 at 6:31 AM
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  14. Sep 7, 2021 at 1:21 PM
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    I was towing a 2021 Gulfstream Ameri-Lite 199DD. Last time I had it weighed with all my stuff I was at 3720. Total GCWR 9220. So about 2k under max. But just traded that for a 2022 Ameri-Lite 248BH with a dry weight of 4200 but it has tandem axles. Figure we add 500 max but length will be 27' vs my 21'. The Tacoma handles it well...actually more than pleased. The only mods I've done is Timbren helper springs and Cooper RTX 265/75R16 tires with a higher load rating. And the hitch is a Husky Centerline 600/6000.

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  15. Sep 7, 2021 at 5:51 PM
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    You will be fine as long as you set up your hitch correctly. I've seen a number of half ton trucks over the years towing campers similar to mine and they are sagging and all over the road. If you buy the right hitch, set it up correctly, load your trailer correctly all will be fine. Also have to consider tire pressures, tire load ratings and tire type. If you take a camper off the lot, leave it as is and let the rv dealer setup your hitch you will be disappointed. And yes...your rpms might be higher at times but I never struggled to maintain speed even when the limit is 70 and it's uphill. Another thing that will not help is if your truck is lifted...thats about the least ideal thing you could do if your using your vehicle for towing.
     
  16. Sep 8, 2021 at 9:30 AM
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    Parroting @green_plaid with the exception that I am lifted. I tow a 3400# tt with a 2017 dcsb, I run a reese pro weight distribution hitch with the included friction sway control and it's good to go. I will say I've learned a few things along the way.

    1) For me in the PNW the sway control is a must, I tow around the columbia gorge and the winds often left me white knuckled, the friction sway control changed that game significantly. I plan to replace my hitch with a newer design that has built-in sway control
    2) Trans temps kept going much higher than I wanted, after "pinning" the transmission cooler those temps drops off by 20+ points and now never go over 207
    3) A rear facing camera on the rear of the trailer while driving is amazingly helpful (but not a replacement for extending mirrors)
     
  17. Sep 12, 2021 at 10:14 AM
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    First trip out with the newer...longer...heavier camper. I estimate I'm probably around 4800 lbs...27' long. No sag when hooked up. It was a good weekend to test as it was pretty windy. Have to say it for sure tows better than the lighter, shorter single axle I had before. I was a bit unsure but after this weekend I have no regrets at all. Obviously acceleration is slower but I'm merging onto the highway just about as fast as anyone else and I hit 70 a few times to check stability. All good...but trying to keep it no more than 65 because the tires are rated to mid 70s.

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  18. Sep 12, 2021 at 2:14 PM
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    My taco pulls best around 60-65. 5,100 lbs ready to roll. Dual axle makes a difference
     
  19. Sep 12, 2021 at 2:59 PM
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    I get it that greater towed weight needs tandem axles, but I'm curious about the 'towing manners' of tandem axles vs single axles. Less anxiety?, better sway stability?, tongue weights?, etc.
     
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  20. Sep 12, 2021 at 3:16 PM
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    Yes, tandem axles are supposed to help really well with stability and sway. You should also be able to put more weight on them in general, so I'd think that means you can move the weight back more off the tongue and put it more over the axles instead without worry (for the most part, still keeping in mind overall weight ratings etc). As far as anxiety, I'd say yes to that as well. If you have a trailer tire blowout you can limp on the other one remaining on that side to a safer place to work on it or even a service station.
     
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