General Grabber ATX - Long Term Review and BS

shadowler · Feb 3, 2021

Thank you for the update.. 50k miles is more than I will ever ask for on any set of tires, excellent value.

philth · Feb 3, 2021

CRSTRD said: ↑

I up-vote the White Letters out too. I've had tire shops actually appear shocked that I wanted the white letters exposed.....I dig the look but I'm a kid of the 70's and your car wasn't sh*t unless you had WL tires.
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Agreed.

CBAD18Taco · Feb 16, 2021

I got mine (265/75R16) a few weeks ago. Got to use them wheeling in the Mojave desert going through rocky terrain as well as climbing dunes and they performed extremely well. Don’t notice any excessive road noise. They were just as quiet as the dealer supplied stock tires I just replaced. I am very happy with them so far. For me RWL in.

Islandboy 71 · Mar 6, 2021

Reluctanse[OP] initial post: ↑

TL : DR - Here's my assessment of how the new(ish) General Grabber ATX will wear on our truck, work in highway and rainy conditions, tow, and how well they work in snowy road conditions. It will take me about 2 years to go through this set of tires, during which time I will update this thread periodically with my feedback and experience.

If you want my full rambling explanation, read on!

Hi Frens,

I haven't found a lot of people sharing their experience about this tire, so I thought I would start a post and share mine. The General Grabber isn't a new tire by any means, but the ATX is the latest iteration, and is a pretty recent release. As we go here I'll explain a bit about how I landed on this choice, my particular truck, my needs, and driving habits.

So we'll back up a tiny bit here. I bought my truck in April 2017, a Double Cab Short Bed TRD-Off Road, with manual transmission. It was my first new truck and I'd always wanted a Tacoma crew cab. Very exciting day! Here it is right after I bought it, with a couple obvious and pretty standard upgrades, including a set of 265/75r16 KBro2's - which are a great tire by the way, more on that shortly.

I drive a lot for work, average somewhere around 25-30k miles per year, mostly highway. Part of those miles include passing through the Oregon Coast range on a very regular basis, which is guaranteed to have snow on it at least a few times a year. I do enjoy off-roading, and have had my truck in the woods a few times since I've bought it, but the reality is I don't have much time these days for those activities right now. I also end up towing once in a while, at or near full towing capacity, and have also had a full cargo load in the bed more than once.

That covers my driving habits. Based on that, I have a few requirements for a tire:

Raised white letters - this one is most important, and pure ridiculous vanity. But it is a requirement on this truck. White letter Mafia!

3 Peak Mountain Snowflake rated - I want a tire that counts as a "traction device" in the snow, so during those events when I'm crossing passes there's no need for chains. Also in the off chance I can sneak away for a snow wheeling trip it's very nice to have

E-rated - I tow and haul often enough I want the extra margin of safety from a full weight rated tire. Despite what the haters say, I can't tell a difference in the ride quality.

Milage - ideally get at least 60k miles on a set

So that's it, all other tire features are optional for me. The requirements leave a very limited set of options. As you can see above, on the first round I went with the BFGs. They work great. They wear great. In fact, I probably could have gotten another 5k miles on these if I had wanted to. But at around 55k they started getting bouncy and would wander a bit more than I liked. So I pulled the plug on them pretty much right at 60k- again very satisfied with the mileage. I wasn't perfect with getting them rotated by the way, but did rotate them probably 5 times during their life, anywhere between say 5k and 12k miles between.
Here they are on their last day:

Good looking tire, despite what the haters say:

OK so why the Generals? You see my list of requirements above. I think I determined 4 options (might be missing one here but this is what I remember):

BFG's

Cooper AT3s

Hankook ATs

Generals

I wanted to go with something different and I just simply haven't seen these tires around, with one major except, that is honestly also another reason I wanted to go with a General Tire. If you haven't watched any Expedition Overland: https://www.youtube.com/user/ExpeditionOverland I do recommend their stuff. I like the job they did with their show. And that said, General Tire was a sponsor. So the other reason, is voting with my pocket book. Thank you General Tire for sponsoring the XO guys.

Initial reactions to the tires, walking out to my truck this morning after getting them installed:

They look great, very happy with the visual appeal (remember this actually matters to me)

Also, the tread is crazy deep!!

They drive and sound pretty much just as I remember the BFGs did when new - nice and quite, pretty well balanced but maybe not exactly perfect (especially compared to a lighter LT stocky type tire, but fine for my expectations), and pretty stable at highway speeds, for a bigger meaty tread truck tire. Overall pleased with out of the box, but there's not much there as of this moment other than 30 miles of dry pavement.

OK that's enough of my nonsense for now, I'll be sure to keep everyone posted as we progress.

Feel free to BS and discuss among yourselves.
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Hi there, am new to this forum and I have had my TRD Pro for 1 1/2 yr. I have been wanting new new tires for my truck. This helped a lot and I ordered a set. Thanks

JoeCOVA · Mar 6, 2021

I have about 15k miles on mine so far and they still look new.

zoo truck · Mar 6, 2021

Had them on my tundra, really great alternative to BF's and for a lot less. The grabbers were the best snow tire i've run.

Islandboy 71 · Mar 9, 2021

Reluctanse[OP] initial post: ↑

TL : DR - Here's my assessment of how the new(ish) General Grabber ATX will wear on our truck, work in highway and rainy conditions, tow, and how well they work in snowy road conditions. It will take me about 2 years to go through this set of tires, during which time I will update this thread periodically with my feedback and experience.

If you want my full rambling explanation, read on!

Hi Frens,

I haven't found a lot of people sharing their experience about this tire, so I thought I would start a post and share mine. The General Grabber isn't a new tire by any means, but the ATX is the latest iteration, and is a pretty recent release. As we go here I'll explain a bit about how I landed on this choice, my particular truck, my needs, and driving habits.

So we'll back up a tiny bit here. I bought my truck in April 2017, a Double Cab Short Bed TRD-Off Road, with manual transmission. It was my first new truck and I'd always wanted a Tacoma crew cab. Very exciting day! Here it is right after I bought it, with a couple obvious and pretty standard upgrades, including a set of 265/75r16 KBro2's - which are a great tire by the way, more on that shortly.

I drive a lot for work, average somewhere around 25-30k miles per year, mostly highway. Part of those miles include passing through the Oregon Coast range on a very regular basis, which is guaranteed to have snow on it at least a few times a year. I do enjoy off-roading, and have had my truck in the woods a few times since I've bought it, but the reality is I don't have much time these days for those activities right now. I also end up towing once in a while, at or near full towing capacity, and have also had a full cargo load in the bed more than once.

That covers my driving habits. Based on that, I have a few requirements for a tire:

Raised white letters - this one is most important, and pure ridiculous vanity. But it is a requirement on this truck. White letter Mafia!

3 Peak Mountain Snowflake rated - I want a tire that counts as a "traction device" in the snow, so during those events when I'm crossing passes there's no need for chains. Also in the off chance I can sneak away for a snow wheeling trip it's very nice to have

E-rated - I tow and haul often enough I want the extra margin of safety from a full weight rated tire. Despite what the haters say, I can't tell a difference in the ride quality.

Milage - ideally get at least 60k miles on a set

So that's it, all other tire features are optional for me. The requirements leave a very limited set of options. As you can see above, on the first round I went with the BFGs. They work great. They wear great. In fact, I probably could have gotten another 5k miles on these if I had wanted to. But at around 55k they started getting bouncy and would wander a bit more than I liked. So I pulled the plug on them pretty much right at 60k- again very satisfied with the mileage. I wasn't perfect with getting them rotated by the way, but did rotate them probably 5 times during their life, anywhere between say 5k and 12k miles between.
Here they are on their last day:

Good looking tire, despite what the haters say:

OK so why the Generals? You see my list of requirements above. I think I determined 4 options (might be missing one here but this is what I remember):

BFG's

Cooper AT3s

Hankook ATs

Generals

I wanted to go with something different and I just simply haven't seen these tires around, with one major except, that is honestly also another reason I wanted to go with a General Tire. If you haven't watched any Expedition Overland: https://www.youtube.com/user/ExpeditionOverland I do recommend their stuff. I like the job they did with their show. And that said, General Tire was a sponsor. So the other reason, is voting with my pocket book. Thank you General Tire for sponsoring the XO guys.

Initial reactions to the tires, walking out to my truck this morning after getting them installed:

They look great, very happy with the visual appeal (remember this actually matters to me)

Also, the tread is crazy deep!!

They drive and sound pretty much just as I remember the BFGs did when new - nice and quite, pretty well balanced but maybe not exactly perfect (especially compared to a lighter LT stocky type tire, but fine for my expectations), and pretty stable at highway speeds, for a bigger meaty tread truck tire. Overall pleased with out of the box, but there's not much there as of this moment other than 30 miles of dry pavement.

OK that's enough of my nonsense for now, I'll be sure to keep everyone posted as we progress.

Feel free to BS and discuss among yourselves.
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Islandboy 71 · Mar 9, 2021

Want to say thank you for the great input got my new tires today.

drstevebrule · Mar 25, 2021

Are most people running the E load? Seems like it make be overkill unless you are maxing out your loads and towing capacities.

How are folks experiences with the SL loads? About to pull the trigger on a set of 265/70/17 115T SL, $680 otd.

SELAroadrunner · Mar 25, 2021

drstevebrule said: ↑

Are most people running the E load? Seems like it make be overkill unless you are maxing out your loads and towing capacities.

How are folks experiences with the SL loads? About to pull the trigger on a set of 265/70/17 115T SL, $680 otd.
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I’ve had my SLs for 11k miles...I’ve hauled quads quite often and tow 16’ bass boat few times a month they’ve always been up to the task

tacoman45 · Mar 25, 2021

Reluctanse[OP] initial post: ↑

TL : DR - Here's my assessment of how the new(ish) General Grabber ATX will wear on our truck, work in highway and rainy conditions, tow, and how well they work in snowy road conditions. It will take me about 2 years to go through this set of tires, during which time I will update this thread periodically with my feedback and experience.

If you want my full rambling explanation, read on!

Hi Frens,

I haven't found a lot of people sharing their experience about this tire, so I thought I would start a post and share mine. The General Grabber isn't a new tire by any means, but the ATX is the latest iteration, and is a pretty recent release. As we go here I'll explain a bit about how I landed on this choice, my particular truck, my needs, and driving habits.

So we'll back up a tiny bit here. I bought my truck in April 2017, a Double Cab Short Bed TRD-Off Road, with manual transmission. It was my first new truck and I'd always wanted a Tacoma crew cab. Very exciting day! Here it is right after I bought it, with a couple obvious and pretty standard upgrades, including a set of 265/75r16 KBro2's - which are a great tire by the way, more on that shortly.

I drive a lot for work, average somewhere around 25-30k miles per year, mostly highway. Part of those miles include passing through the Oregon Coast range on a very regular basis, which is guaranteed to have snow on it at least a few times a year. I do enjoy off-roading, and have had my truck in the woods a few times since I've bought it, but the reality is I don't have much time these days for those activities right now. I also end up towing once in a while, at or near full towing capacity, and have also had a full cargo load in the bed more than once.

That covers my driving habits. Based on that, I have a few requirements for a tire:

Raised white letters - this one is most important, and pure ridiculous vanity. But it is a requirement on this truck. White letter Mafia!

3 Peak Mountain Snowflake rated - I want a tire that counts as a "traction device" in the snow, so during those events when I'm crossing passes there's no need for chains. Also in the off chance I can sneak away for a snow wheeling trip it's very nice to have

E-rated - I tow and haul often enough I want the extra margin of safety from a full weight rated tire. Despite what the haters say, I can't tell a difference in the ride quality.

Milage - ideally get at least 60k miles on a set

So that's it, all other tire features are optional for me. The requirements leave a very limited set of options. As you can see above, on the first round I went with the BFGs. They work great. They wear great. In fact, I probably could have gotten another 5k miles on these if I had wanted to. But at around 55k they started getting bouncy and would wander a bit more than I liked. So I pulled the plug on them pretty much right at 60k- again very satisfied with the mileage. I wasn't perfect with getting them rotated by the way, but did rotate them probably 5 times during their life, anywhere between say 5k and 12k miles between.
Here they are on their last day:

Good looking tire, despite what the haters say:

OK so why the Generals? You see my list of requirements above. I think I determined 4 options (might be missing one here but this is what I remember):

BFG's

Cooper AT3s

Hankook ATs

Generals

I wanted to go with something different and I just simply haven't seen these tires around, with one major except, that is honestly also another reason I wanted to go with a General Tire. If you haven't watched any Expedition Overland: https://www.youtube.com/user/ExpeditionOverland I do recommend their stuff. I like the job they did with their show. And that said, General Tire was a sponsor. So the other reason, is voting with my pocket book. Thank you General Tire for sponsoring the XO guys.

Initial reactions to the tires, walking out to my truck this morning after getting them installed:

They look great, very happy with the visual appeal (remember this actually matters to me)

Also, the tread is crazy deep!!

They drive and sound pretty much just as I remember the BFGs did when new - nice and quite, pretty well balanced but maybe not exactly perfect (especially compared to a lighter LT stocky type tire, but fine for my expectations), and pretty stable at highway speeds, for a bigger meaty tread truck tire. Overall pleased with out of the box, but there's not much there as of this moment other than 30 miles of dry pavement.

OK that's enough of my nonsense for now, I'll be sure to keep everyone posted as we progress.

Feel free to BS and discuss among yourselves.
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Nice review. Those trips over the Cascades to the Coast can be kinda sketchy when it's icy & snowy out. Same reason I have 3 peak tires myself.

Any reason why you left out Duratracs? I'm pretty sure you can get them in Load E

tacoman45 · Mar 25, 2021

drstevebrule said: ↑

Are most people running the E load? Seems like it make be overkill unless you are maxing out your loads and towing capacities.

How are folks experiences with the SL loads? About to pull the trigger on a set of 265/70/17 115T SL, $680 otd.
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I don't have experience with SL loads, but I thought I'd share that you can run Load C duratracs if you want something in the middle of SL & E.

I run Load C duratracs in 265 75 R16. They're great and they don't rub. Not quite as stiff as an E tire, but that's a plus in my book.

drstevebrule · Mar 25, 2021

wguest said: ↑

I don't have experience with SL loads, but I thought I'd share that you can run Load C duratracs if you want something in the middle of SL & E.

I run Load C duratracs in 265 75 R16. They're great and they don't rub. Not quite as stiff as an E tire, but that's a plus in my book.
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I have run the duratracs on my old 04 Tacoma and liked them, but not enough to pay the $200+ price difference. Unfortunately that is a key factor at the moment.

drstevebrule · Mar 25, 2021

SELAroadrunner said: ↑

I’ve had my SLs for 11k miles...I’ve hauled quads quite often and tow 16’ bass boat few times a month they’ve always been up to the task
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Good to hear! Thanks.

tacoman45 · Mar 26, 2021

drstevebrule said: ↑

I have run the duratracs on my old 04 Tacoma and liked them, but not enough to pay the $200+ price difference. Unfortunately that is a key factor at the moment.
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Yeah, they are proud of them, aren't they? Haha. Some people genuinely dislike them for noise or sidewall reasons, so I was just asking to see if that was the case.

Wulf · Mar 26, 2021

I had AT2s on WJ and I was pretty impressed with them. They seemed to do better in the snow than KO2s too.

drstevebrule · Mar 31, 2021

Pulled the trigger on some 265/70/17 SL ATX. Fills the wheel well to the max, no rubbing yet, looks good. RWL in for me. Thanks all for the feedback.

Reluctanse · Apr 2, 2021

wguest said: ↑

Nice review. Those trips over the Cascades to the Coast can be kinda sketchy when it's icy & snowy out. Same reason I have 3 peak tires myself.

Any reason why you left out Duratracs? I'm pretty sure you can get them in Load E
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Had a friend with them... they were mud-tire loud, which, I got over having the mud tire noise on my truck back in my early 20s....

Reluctanse · Apr 2, 2021

drstevebrule said: ↑

Are most people running the E load? Seems like it make be overkill unless you are maxing out your loads and towing capacities.

How are folks experiences with the SL loads? About to pull the trigger on a set of 265/70/17 115T SL, $680 otd.
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I'm running the E-rated (don't recall if I specified). I do tow and haul, couldn't really see a downside besides the slightly higher cost.
Would be hard to compare, but I'd be curious if they rode any different.

I didn't notice anything going from the stock Wranglers to the BFG's in E, so can't really compare.

Kerbouchard! · Apr 2, 2021

drstevebrule said: ↑

Are most people running the E load? Seems like it make be overkill unless you are maxing out your loads and towing capacities.

How are folks experiences with the SL loads? About to pull the trigger on a set of 265/70/17 115T SL, $680 otd.
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I had the SLs on for about 28k miles. I've taken them up numerous trails and fs roads across the Rockies and they've always performed perfectly. No flats. Always great traction. I just pulled them off this week b/c I got a lift and went a little bigger. I have them posted over on the Colorado FS thread if anyone is interested. 265/70/17.

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