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Goodyear Duratracs vs Nitto Trail Graps

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by astott93, Sep 3, 2016.

  1. Sep 3, 2016 at 9:44 PM
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    moondeath

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    I went through the dilemma of what tires to buy as well and ultimately decided against duratracs since there always seemed to be a lot of I am happy but.. Vibes or wear etc. It also is concerning that there was so much swing between reviews which leads me to believe Quality Control may be a factor like the moondeath was saying.

    I've heard good about both sets, but decided that my kind of driving is more on highway then off so I went with Michelin LTX A/T2's. The only complain I read on these was that they are not quite as aggressive or capable off-road and that the mileage warranty wasn't originally there (now they have 60K).

    Hoping for the best for you either way!
    Discount tire had a sick sale this weekend for $100 of a set of premium tires plus $60 off if you used their credit card and another $160 off if you bought wheels. I negotiated and get a set of 265/65/17 LTX A/T and full set of MK6 wheels with lugs and replacement certificates for $1,373 before tax with $240 in prepaid gift cards coming back.

    The guy gave me the $100 of tires right away instead of rebate and gave me a few extra discounts as well.

    $1,200 for wheels, tires, lugs and warranties installed is not a bad day!

    Hopefully you can negotiate a similar pricing package if you have a local DT.
     
  3. Sep 3, 2016 at 9:55 PM
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    The Duratracs need to be rotated like crazy or they will have serious wear issues.

    I've been happy with mine so far, and I like the winter performance for when it snows before I get my studded set on.

    I really like Nitto Terra's and Toyo OC AT's for the tread pattern, they experience a lot less abnormal wear that the Duratrac and KO2 Suffer from.
     
  5. Sep 3, 2016 at 10:49 PM
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    I had Terra Grapplers on a Silverado. They were great tires, but louder than I would have liked. Watch out once they start to get some wear on them. There is not much siping in the tread block, once it wears down you're left with a slick in the rain. The Terra Grapplers in my case really needed to be rotated often! The Silverado is now running Cooper AT3's and they have been a lot more forgiving with rotating and wear. They're a lot quieter too. Very satisfied with the Coopers on the Silverado. Both tires have brought me home in deep snow (heavy wet stuff or dry powder) without issue. The Terra's handled mud a lot better than the Coopers but both have brought me through what I've been in. Gravel and what little offroading I've done both were very similar.

    Not an aggressive tire at all, but I've got Dura Grapplers on my Ram 2500 with a Cummins. They wear exceptionally well even with poor rotation practices :(. They handle the wet road the best of any truck tire I've got, but you can get stuck in grass with dew on it in 2 wheel drive.

    I currently have General Grabber AT2's on my Tacoma and am very satisfied with them. They are quiet and perform excellent in rain and snow. I will say they need to be rotated often! The Tacoma is so light in the rear that the center of the tire will wear down faster than the outside edges at recommended pressures. I now run lower pressures in the rear to compensate but you can still see how about 1/2" on either side of the tire doesn't make contact in certain conditions. Fronts look great and wear evenly.

    When I wear these out I'll go back to them and keep up with my rotations better. If the size is available, the Generals will end up on the Silverado when the Coopers wear out.
     
  6. Sep 3, 2016 at 11:04 PM
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    Go with Cooper AT3's. Great tire, great wear, great offroad.
     
  7. Sep 4, 2016 at 7:42 AM
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    I've had the total opposite experience...I've had them on my first 99 Tacoma, 2006 4Runner, and now my 2006 Tacoma. They have done awesome in all conditions and wear really well.
     
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  8. Sep 4, 2016 at 7:52 AM
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    I had the duracraps but I only say that because I was one of the unlucky ones. Off the start I was happy... Not too terribly loud, decent traction, acceptable vibes. Then about 40% wear into them and I sounded like a wrangler punk with super swampers going down I40. Traction on wet roads was dangerous in the rear. Had to anticipate and correct spin off stop lights even on tiny hills. The worst was on/off ramps

    I have some coopers now and love them. I would highly recomend and will probably buy the same next go around.
     
  9. Sep 4, 2016 at 8:26 AM
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    Pretty much my experience.
     
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    Exactly the opposite of my experience with them.
     
  11. Sep 4, 2016 at 5:18 PM
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    Like I said before, some people have really good experiences and some have terrible. Its obviously some kind of quality control issue. Most tires you get are consistent with their pros and cons.
     
  12. Sep 4, 2016 at 7:54 PM
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    2 pages and not a single mention of what load people are running. Get the right load tire for our trucks and you will be fine. Most problems are when people try to put an E-Load tire on a light truck like ours. C-Load 6ply and you will likely have no issues at all. People want to throw a 8 or 10ply tires on something like a Tacoma (or don't even know/care what load range tire they're getting) and then wonder why they get horrid MPG or have balance issues. I have C-Load 6ply Duratracs like a few friends w/Tacomas and couldn't be happier.. just like them. Not a balance issue or vibration in the bunch either.
     
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    My duratracs were load c.
     
  14. Sep 4, 2016 at 8:44 PM
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    I know a few people with Load-C tires had issues but by and large the lion's share of symptoms like you described were 8 or 10ply tires. It seems the 6ply Duratracs had a MUCH lower occurrence of these issues. Mark me in the column of happy Duratrac owners and when these tires are out of tread I'll be buying another set. Best all-around tire for Colorado that I've ever had on a 4x4 vehicle.
     
  15. Sep 5, 2016 at 3:46 AM
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    I have a load E Nitto Trail Grappler the MT tire and couldn't be happier. It has about 1/8 of wear in 20000 miles. I rotate every 5000 miles and fill air pressure to 32-33.

    I would imagine if you do frequent offroading, hitting rocks, etc.. you will probably need to align and balance often.
     
  16. Sep 5, 2016 at 5:35 AM
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    I'm running Duratracs.....I've had KO2's, KM2's, (on a 3/4-ton Dodge) and several other brands over recent years. I'm past 25,000 miles on the Duratracs and just now starting to measure wear. (less than 3/64th measured) Trick is to inflate to proper psi for weight of vehicle. They outperform just about any off road capable tire I've experienced on wet traction. FAR better than Goodrich..... They are hands down one of the best snow tires. Zero issues with balance, OTHER THAN bad stick on weights the tire store used first go round....Back to clinch weights and no problems. I'm running 265/75/16 C-rated now. The KO2's wore good as far as measured tread, but traction went away fast with wear. KM2's were absolutely dangerous on wet roads or with heavy loads.

    With some of the "A/T" tires that are popular sellers, they give up too much off road capability in favor of being "quiet" for my liking. Duratracs make some sound, but they aren't "loud". If all you are interested in is quiet, and all you do is drive dry paved roads, then ANYTHING will do. If your short list of needs includes being able to negotiate a little mud every now and then, most of these street tread "A/T" tires are too much of a liability.
     
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    What psi are you currently running? Pretty happy with mine so far,took a roadforce balance to get them right.
     
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    I'm running 34 now. I ran 38 when I first mounted them. I'll pump the rears up to 38 still when I'm pulling my camper trailer. Mine have been roadforce balanced.... One tire tech that did my 1st rotation (and re-balance) told me he was seeing far better results when he pumped them up to 40 psi while balancing, then back to whatever regular operating pressure that the owner requested once back on the vehicle. I have no explanation for WHY, but when he did that, the balance is PERFECT.
     
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    Good to know,gonna get a rotation and re-balance soon.
     
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    I rotate ANY tire I run about every 5000 miles. Just a habit. The tire shop I deal with does free rotation and balance for the life of the tire (legal tread depth) So....I have them throw 'em on the balancer every time they're rotated. So far, except for when the weights fell off (not the fault of the tire) they have been spot on as far as balance.
     

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