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Government Motors - Worst Made Cars on the Road

Discussion in 'General Automotive' started by cakmakli, Apr 12, 2010.

  1. Apr 12, 2010 at 7:28 AM
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    cakmakli

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    My question is when will they get called before Congress.


    Worst-Made Cars on the Road
    by Hannah Elliott
    Friday, April 9, 2010

    If you want to drive something dependable and long-lasting, steer clear of these vehicles.

    With a 22% improvement in sales last month, and despite the six-month, $4.3 billion loss it announced Wednesday, General Motors is likely to have its strongest spring and summer in years. Plus, the automaker had critically acclaimed new products at the recent New York Auto Show and the much-anticipated Chevrolet Volt is due out this fall.

    Unfortunately just because GM's cars are selling well now doesn't mean they're the best bet for durability or value -- yet. It'll take awhile before GM's new direction shows up in tangible new products at the dealership.

    Four of the seven vehicles on our list of the worst-made cars on the road come from GM brands. And all of the cars on the list -- including Chrysler's Dodge Nitro and Jeep Wrangler -- are made by Detroit's Big Three. Only one car on the list is made by Ford Motor (NYSE: F).


    You can read the rest of it here: LINK
     
  2. Apr 12, 2010 at 7:32 AM
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    hendooman

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  3. Apr 12, 2010 at 7:56 AM
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    I honestly can't say I am surprised.
     
  4. Apr 12, 2010 at 12:12 PM
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    Makes me love my Tacoma even more then I already did.
     
  5. Apr 12, 2010 at 12:15 PM
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    amen!
     
  6. Apr 12, 2010 at 12:51 PM
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    Payback for all the hate thrown at Tacoma by the GM heads (is that the administration in Washington?)!
     
  7. Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM
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    CR Value Score: Rated among the worst in value
    CR Safety Score: Rated among the worst in safety.
    CR Overall Score: 61 out of 100
    J.D. Power Dependability Score: 2 out of 5 Power Circles
    MSRP: $62,495

    Chevrolet Aveo [​IMG]
    Segment: Compact Car
    CR Predicted Reliability Score: Poor
    CR Value Score: Not rated among the worst in overall value
    CR Safety Score: Not rated among the worst in overall safety.
    CR Overall Score: 36 out of 100
    J.D. Power Dependability Score: 2 out of 5 Power Circles
    MSRP: $11,965

    Chevrolet Colorado [​IMG]
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    CR Predicted Reliability Score: Poor
    CR Value Score: Not rated among the worst in value
    CR Safety Score: Rated among the worst in overall safety.
    CR Overall Score: 41 out of 100
    J.D. Power Dependability Score: 2 out of 5 Power Circles
    MSRP: $16,985

    Dodge Nitro [​IMG]
    Segment: SUV
    CR Predicted Reliability Score: Poor
    CR Value Score: Rated among the worst in overall value
    CR Safety Score: Not rated among the worst in safety.
    CR Overall Score: 33 out of 100
    J.D. Power Dependability Score: 2 out of 5 Power Circles
    MSRP: $22,335

    Ford F-250 [​IMG]
    Segment: Pickup Truck
    CR Predicted Reliability Score: Poor
    CR Value Score: Rated among the worst in overall value
    CR Safety Score: Rated among the worst in overall safety.
    CR Overall Score: 37 out of 100
    J.D. Power Dependability Score: 3 out of 5 Power Circles
    MSRP: $28,020

    Ouch!!
     
  8. Apr 12, 2010 at 1:07 PM
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    I saw that this morning. Brought a big smile to my face.
     
  9. Apr 12, 2010 at 1:27 PM
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    It looks like my f-250 trade in is confirmed as a good decision!
     
  10. Apr 12, 2010 at 1:34 PM
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    GM stands for general motors doesnt it? not government motors?
     
  11. Apr 12, 2010 at 1:35 PM
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  12. Apr 12, 2010 at 2:42 PM
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    They might as well go ahead and changed their name:


    Wikipedia:

    "On June 1, 2009 General Motors filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy proceedings from which it emerged on July 10, 2009 in a reorganization in which a new entity acquired the most valuable assets. GM is temporarily majority owned by the United States Treasury and to a smaller extent the Canadian Crown, with the US government investing a total of US$57.6 billion under the Troubled Asset Relief Program."
     
  13. Apr 12, 2010 at 2:55 PM
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    That's true, if it werent for the government they might as well not exist.
     
  14. Apr 12, 2010 at 3:12 PM
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    I lub my Toyota...
     
  15. Apr 12, 2010 at 4:12 PM
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    Seriously, who lookes to Forbes as any source of automobile quality information? I owned an Aveo. I never had a lick of trouble with that car. An Escallade is little more than a fancy Tahoe, and CR likes the Tahoe. The Colorado, I'll give 'em that. I had the Isuzu badged version, and had plenty of irritating little issues with it.
     
  16. Apr 12, 2010 at 4:18 PM
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    I love that the Colorado and the Canyon are both on the list.

    This is no surprise...anyone that can read has known "imports" (they're made here now, folks) have superior reliability.
     
  17. Apr 13, 2010 at 9:44 AM
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    My 03 Tacoma has a Front Differential bearing issue that is afflicting many owners.. mostly 2nd Gens... It's a common problem with these trucks and Toyota have been replacing the front diff under warranty.

    Other than the rust frame issue (which is now coated with a layer of tar by the dealer), I'd say the truck should be solid.

    No worse than many other GM vehicles.

    This Tacoma certainly lags in durability compared to my Honda Element, by a big margin.
     
  18. Apr 13, 2010 at 9:44 AM
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    Forbes just wrote the article. The research came from Consumer Reports and J.D. Power and Associates.

    Quote from the article:

    "Those studies are all from Consumer Reports: The Most Reliable Cars Report; Best and Worst Values Report; Best and Worst Safety Performance Survey; and the CR overall scores for 2010 vehicles.

    We then added to the list any vehicles that received fewer than three out of five power circles in this year's Vehicle Dependability Study from J.D. Power and Associates. Any car, truck or SUV named among the worst in at least three of those five total studies made the final cut to be on the "Worst-Made" list."
     
  19. Apr 13, 2010 at 9:04 PM
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    I don't think CR is worth the paper it's written on. I've seen them shred a domestic nameplate over some minor ergonomic issue, and then wax eloquently over an even worse layout or totally ignore major faults on an import vehicle. J.D. Power frequently disagrees with CR on many of their reliability rankings. As I said, I'll give them the Colorado/Canyon twins. They are pretty much universally bitched about across the board.
     
  20. Apr 13, 2010 at 9:18 PM
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    [oxi] Consumer reports is owned by some obama leg humpers[/oxi]
     
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