Great throttle response with air box cracked open

If you think about that for just a moment, you should be able to realize why that makes absolutely no sense.

 

Makes complete sense. Maybe it would be best for you to consider me part of the group you mention in your signature since it appears that its for people that dont agree with you.

 

Yep, I think I will. Clearly it is too complicated for you to comprehend that if they can SELL the smaller engine, it means that people WANT the smaller engine. And why could that possibly be? BECAUSE IT IS SMALLER. It certainly isn't any cheaper.
Making it bigger would defeat the purpose.

 

"They offer an option with a larger engine". No, to get the larger engine, you must get a larger Taco. I don't want a larger Taco, I want my little Taco with a reasonable amount of power. I see no need to make an engine with this little power.

 

They're all the same size.

 

What the heck does that mean??? Why did you post "They're all the same size"?? What were you trying to say??? I don't understand.

 

Clearly you are incapable of understanding. Too bad for you.

 

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/wow-you-all-were-right.180854/#post-3820723

 

LOL. Hint: A larger Tacoma would be a Tundra. The 5.7 has all the power you want. I know, I have one as well as a couple Tacoma's.

 

I can't argue with that, I'm not capable of understanding, that while talking about Taco's you say "They're all are the same size". I'm kind'f embarrassed to ask, but could you explain it so even I can understand?? It will need to be really really simple.

 

probably meant that these days the Tacoma bodies are all the same size. No smaller option than the access cab and for that you can choose between the 2.7 and 3.5L. The only thing different is the engine, body and everything else is the same.

sure when the reg cab was an option it was still possible to go smaller but you would end up restricted to the 2.7L. Wish they had made it in the 4.0L. There was a Tacoma I saw a year or two ago on craigslist that was a reg cab that someone had done the 4.0L swap. Looked really neat and with the 3200lb weight of the reg cab it could probably scoot along pretty good.

 

Well, I knew they discontinued the reg. cabs about 4 yrs. ago, but just never realized the access cab, W/ 127" wheel base was the same size as the double cab W/ 140" wheel base. I just figured the double cab, was larger than the access cab. The DCLB sure looks bigger than the access cab.

 

Double cab is the same width, but it IS bigger. It's longer, so it is bigger in length, and it's heavier.

 

While the Tundra does have a much better power to weight ratio than a Tacoma, it's still very heavy, and as such has less power to weight than some similarly powerful competitor's trucks.

 

True.

The tundra still has a shit ton more power to weight than the Tacoma, no matter what flavor Tacoma you get.

 

Cheap, fast, reliable... pick 2

Tacomas are relatively cheap and very reliable. They aren't known for horsepower. Personally I would rather have an engine slightly down on power (by design) that is affordable and ultra-reliable. I think that's why the Toyota 4-cylinder engines have a legendary reputation for reliability... they are not tuned to the performance limit of the engine design, so the engines live longer. Even when the 2.7 Tacoma got dual VVT-i (2015?) there wasn't much more zip. It's strange because my Dad's 2006 Highlander base model (2.7) is very responsive right off idle, whereas my 2.7 Tacoma will bog slightly if I just stab the gas off the line. (I think the lack of power in the Tacoma has to do with the PCM programming and other engine tuning between the different models/drivetrains/intended uses of the 2.7, otherwise it's mostly the same engine.) Still my Tacoma does everything I need and I have no intention of modifying the intake.

Anyone pulling the secondary air filter for better performance may have issues with smog inspections, if required.

 

The 2.7 in the Highlander is the 1AR-FE, not the 2TR-FE like the Tacoma. They are not the same, the 1AR is all aluminum, and has a different bore, and stroke. Although, maybe not pushed to the
"limit" the 2TR-FE produces a good per liter power factor for a non forced induction, general purpose production engine. Toyota could have used a larger engine for more power, and still had
reliability and good performance. The Tacoma is not cheap, it's about 90+ percent the cost of a lower end half ton full sized pickup.

 

No doubt very reliable, & that's good. Also no doubt you don't care about power. I have no problem with that. My mother was like you, yrs. ago, she had a Chevy Impala W/ a 6 cyl. auto. & like the 2.7 Taco, very low on power but she thought it was fine. What I'm aggravated about is, then she had options, she could have the 6 cyl. but if she liked a little more power she could get a reasonable powered small V-8 or if she wanted a lot of power there was a big high powered V-8. My problem is, it couldn't be a big deal to put either the little weak 2.7 or the more powerful 4.0 V-6 in the Taco's. You have the option to have either, if you got the extended cab models, & the engine compartment of all the Taco models are exactly the same. If the 4.0 would fit in the extended cab, it would fit just exactly the same in the reg. cab. It couldn't be money, if they charged $1000 extra for the 4.0 in the extended cabs, put the 4.0 in the reg. cab & charge $1000 extra for it. Shirt, I'm still mad & sure wish I could understand "WHY", "WHY", "WHY"??? Oh Gosh, the misery, & "WHY"??? ///

 

That you got right.

The other, not so much.

 

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