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Grey Wolf 21RR Toy Hauler with 2013 Limited 4.0L Taco with extras....

Discussion in 'Towing' started by OmegaQuest, May 29, 2013.

  1. Jul 16, 2013 at 10:57 AM
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    scollins

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    I know it is now irrelevant since you sold the Taco, but that CAT scale readout is very telling for other Taco-towing owners. First thing, "max trailer weight" is a pretty worthless figure, really only good for marketing. What you want to focus on for towing is GAWR, GVWR and GCWR. That goes for ANY tow vehicle, not just the Tacoma.

    From the CAT Scale printout:

    Steer Axle @ 2580 lbs. That is 175lbs under max for the Taco (2755)
    Rear Axle @ 2840 lbs. That is 270 lbs under max (3110)
    Total truck is at 5,420 lbs, or a scant 30 lbs under GVWR (5,450)
    In other words, this is right at the maximum rating for the truck, but not over.

    Assuming that scale weight was with you and your wife in the truck. If not, then your truck will be over GVWR by adding just passengers and drivers, much less any other gear you'd bring with you camping.....

    Trailer axle @ 5100 puts the GCVW at 10,520 lbs, or 660 lbs under the GCWR of the Taco (11,180 lbs, 4x4 Quad GRN245L-PRADKA). Again, that is assuming the total scale weight includes passengers and driver. If not, then you'd be over the weight rating of the Taco.


    On your F150, same thing applies, don't worry about the "payload" but what the "Steer", "Drive" and "Trailer" axle weights come in at. Looking at the F150 manual, you should have 17,100 lbs of GCWR, which is 6,000 lbs more than the Taco. I'm actually surprised that GCWR is that high from a 3.5L Ecoboost setup, but that is what it says. The 6.2L has the same GCWR.
     
  2. Jul 17, 2013 at 10:16 AM
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    BlackSeven

    BlackSeven Grab your helmet, this shits about to get retarded

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    The engine isn't the limiting factor in the F-150. Frame, suspension, axle capacity, transmission and brakes are.

    Apply 400 ftlbs of torque with all other components being the same and it should have the same GCWR.

    Ford put a lot of engineering effort into the EcoBoost motor. Even though this is more of a marketing stunt, I'm still very impressed that they did a tear down like this. (And I'm a GM man at heart...)

    http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2011/0...a-torture-tested-ecoboost-v-6-looks-like.html
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2013
  3. Aug 3, 2013 at 9:03 AM
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    robm7

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    Too large in my opinion to tow.
     
  4. Nov 3, 2013 at 11:51 PM
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    Don't do it!. I had tow a 22 feet trailer with 4k lbs unloaded. I towed it 100 miles to camping and sometimes with the wind, it flowed like a boat :). I had wdh, brake controller, etc. Get a bigger truck or smaller trailer.
     
  5. Nov 4, 2013 at 1:24 AM
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    Toyoman65

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    Have you checked out the living lite trailer series ?
     
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