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*Group Buy* ToyTec Adjustable Front Coil Over Kit for Bilstein Shocks * Ends 6/3/10

Discussion in 'ToyTec Lifts' started by ToyTec Lifts, May 20, 2010.

  1. May 23, 2010 at 10:33 AM
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    no. with this your max lift in the front would be 3"...the tsb is for the rear of the truck

    no. this kitr has a softer spring and will give you a nicer ride, plus its adjustable up to 3"

    adjustable suspension, a softer ride. they look cool:cool:
     
  2. May 23, 2010 at 10:57 AM
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    I'm interested. I have rear TSB, so how much lift will these provide in the front? Will it level the truck out or put the front higher?
     
  3. May 23, 2010 at 1:12 PM
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    ill be in on this if we can get enough people to get the lowest price...
     
  4. May 23, 2010 at 7:49 PM
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    These kits use eibach springs yet seem to be more expensive than the above mentioned setup? I too am leaning towards the billies at .85 with the 1.6 eibach spring for ~450 or so total(including rear shocks). What exactly is the difference? Different spring rate? Longer spring?
     
  5. May 24, 2010 at 6:22 AM
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    Its adjustable, you can go from 0"-3" of lift depending on how much you want:cool:

    coilovers are adjustable. If you did go with just the eibach springs, over some time those will get "broken in" and sag some. with the coilover you can just turn the spanner nut on them and adjust it back up to the height you want.
     
  6. May 24, 2010 at 6:38 AM
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    I was under the impression that the difference is the adjustable collar, that the springs were the same. Maybe ToyTec can confirm this..??
     
  7. May 24, 2010 at 7:32 AM
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    The website says it goes up to 3.5"s of lift. I am also curious on how this system really works? I mean do you adjust the 5100's as well or do you set them at 0" height and the coil overs do the lifting/adjusting?:rolleyes:
     
  8. May 24, 2010 at 9:06 AM
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    We have a new shipping estimator on the website now, you simply add to cart and then put in your zip code, its really slick, check it out!

    The coils we use with this kit are a 600# coil, where as the stand alone Eibach spring we sell on the website, the silver one's, they are 620#. With just the 620# spring and the standard 5100's is you are limited to just the 4 clip setting options for lifting on the shock body. With our kit, you have unlimited height adjustment from 1-3" with the adjustable collar.

    If you bought this kit, you would only set the bilstein shocks to the stock clip setting, and get all your adjustment or lift by using the adjustable collar.
    Yes, you can order this kit and any other gear at the time you place your order.

    Watch the website to see if we have any stand alone 5100's for sale. They are really limited right now.

    No, this kit will give you 3" up front with 4WD vehicles and 2 inches in the rear for a level truck. You should still be able to fit 285's.

    This kit will allow you to reach the full 3 inches up front where as the 5100's you can only reach 2.5.

    This kit offers you the ability for a full 3 inches up front. So you would need to add an AAL in the rear to level it out. You can still get your rear shocks also.

    You would get rid of your old stock worn out spring, and replace them with this kit ontop of your 5100's to complete your front coilover and convert it to a fully adjustable coilover. Allows finite adjustment whenever you want.

    You can definitely finish ordering all the gear that it would take to complete the kit to the Ultimate kit, and receive 5% with that gear.

    1.5-3.5"
    No, it can level it out for sure! Does that make sense?

    Different spring rate. The gray stand alone coils are 620# and the ones in this kit are 600# springs.

    As stated above, the springs are different.

    You leave the shocks on the stock position and get all the lift from preloading the coil with the adjustable collar. Make sense?
     
  9. May 24, 2010 at 9:06 AM
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    Also everyone, I updated the list on the first post, so if you don't see your name on there and you want in, simply PM me, thanks!
     
  10. May 24, 2010 at 9:19 AM
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    Yeah that makes sense.;) Now do you need any special tools for the install? I currently have 885's with 5100's all around.:cool: Oh and OP, I see my name on the list, I'm not positive if I am committed yet. I need to see what I have for funds around that time.:rolleyes:
     
  11. May 24, 2010 at 11:13 AM
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    Are the Eibach springs and the springs in the coilovers the same except for the color the spring rates? Same size?

    If so, have you guys ever considered selling just the coilover collar for the people who have both the 5100's and the Eibach Springs?
     
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    As stated above, The Toytec springs are 600# the eibach 1.6 springs are 620#. Not sure how much of a difference this causes as the 1.6's people say not to go above the .85(~2.45 inches of lift) setting where as the Toytec springs you can crank up to a full 3 inches of lift. I guess over that distance that's quite a difference in the amount of preload thus making a harsher ride.

    Also:

    DSM billies all 4 corners = $300 + eibachs at $150(Toytec) = $450, not including TW discounts
    TT Kit @ 20 people = $345 + $300 for billies = $645

    That's almost a $200 difference for basically just an adjustable collar and hardware. I could be completely wrong here though and missing the point. I just want to make the best decision financially and for my truck.
     
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    the 620 springs will not fit b/c the ends of the springs are diffrent.
    the ones that come with the collars are flat at both ends. i looked
    into doing this back when i bought eibachs with the group buy in
    november. i sold them and my 5100's and bought icons. i still have not
    installed them.

    my question is, i am having a bumper made by cbi offroad that is going
    to weigh 125 to 150 lbs. if i decided to go this route, and set the fronts
    at say 2.75", would the ride be to stiff, just curious.
     
  14. May 24, 2010 at 2:42 PM
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    Why does every place I call for the Bilstein 5100s tell me their on back order with no eta?
     
  15. May 24, 2010 at 2:45 PM
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    I'm not sure either. I know DownSouth Motorsports has them in stock every once in a while so you might want to check with them. But I think its just from the high demand for them, thats why they are so hard to find.:cool:
     
  16. May 24, 2010 at 2:47 PM
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    What made you change your mind?:rolleyes:
     
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    Hey toy tec just throwing this out there maybe if you did a group buy on the eibach spring and gave people the option to add the billys to it we might get a better response with the group buy. But like I said I'm just throwing it out there
     
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    I agree!
     
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