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Gun Control

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by sonjay, Dec 9, 2008.

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  1. Dec 9, 2008 at 5:06 PM
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    sonjay

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    ok so to keep the concel thread free of this subject here it is. Lets keep a level head about this, its obvious we have different opinions on this subject but we are all adults, lets keep it calm and cool guys!



    I strongly disagree with most of these studies, they fail to take into account all the deaths caused by hand guns in other countries, such as Canada and Mexico. Criminals are buying guns at shops all across America and bringing them across the borders where they sell them for huge money to organized crime. There is one shop in the south east somewhere can't remember what state, that has sold guns traced from many gang slayings in Quebec, Toronto and Montreal. This shop sells the same guy 10-12 guns every couple weeks. I am not against guns at all, my dad has many guns and I one day would also like to have some guns, for hunting and protection. My problem is with hand guns and assault weapons. These guns are designed with one purpose and that is to kill people.
    Here in Canada we have fairly strict gun control. To buy and own a gun you must have a valid FAC(Fire arm certificate) and you must register your gun with the gov't. To get a FAC you have to take a couple hour course on gun safety. The police have access to the central gun registry, and can see if a person owns a gun before they approach a vehicle or enter a residence. If you are a convicted felon, you can not own a gun. You can even legally own a handgun or assault rifle in Canada, but it is for range use only. It can not be carried on your person, it must be in a bag or case and you can only drive to and from the range. Off duty officers are allowed to carry concealed I believe.

    "It’s not as if a 19-year-old in the United States is more evil than a 19-year-old in Australia—there’s no evidence for that," Hemenway explains. "But a 19-year-old in America can very easily get a pistol. That’s very hard to do in Australia. So when there’s a bar fight in Australia, somebody gets punched out or hit with a beer bottle. Here, they get shot."

    In general, guns don’t induce people to commit crimes. "What guns do is make crimes lethal," says Hemenway. They also make suicide attempts lethal: about 60 percent of suicides in America involve guns. "If you try to kill yourself with drugs, there’s a 2 to 3 percent chance of dying," he explains. "With guns, the chance is 90 percent."

    http://harvardmagazine.com/2004/09/death-by-the-barrel.html
     
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    I am a STRONG beliver in gun control. Keep control of the weapon so as to allow for a fast follow up shot. :D
     
  4. Dec 9, 2008 at 5:17 PM
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    :amen: well hell yes!!!
     
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    That Harvard article is a pretty good read, didn't get through it all, but what I read was interesting.
     
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    I am a LIBERAL, I voted for OBAMA, I have more guns than fingers. I am a butcher by trade, I don't hunt animals, people or criminals. I like to fish and keep and kill the ones I eat. I grew up in a small town that is not so small now, I lost some friends who were not in the best business. I carry a gun almost all the time. Sad, yes. Realistic, yes. Prepared to defend my self and my loved ones, you bet your ass. My 85 year old grandmother, who is still alive described the country as the old west. As far as guns go, our country cut it's teeth with guns, we needed guns, the British hated our guns, the French sold us the guns, we adapted the guns and made them better, in the civil war we improved on them, ww1 guns were available by the ton in the 30's. In the late 50's you could buy a WW2 rifle for ten bucks. Our government sponcered markenship tournaments and still do to this day. I hate to tell any liberal, which I am one, but the guns are here. Deal with it. They aren't going anywhere. More than one half of my firearms were bought "personally" and the government doesnt have anything to do with me.
     
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    4 words. I am Gun Control. :D. but serioulsy though. people need to start watching how they handle their guns and prevent accidental discharges into innocent people. i believe in guns as well as the right to use them
     
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    kinda hard to tell........marlin or winchester up top??
     
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    maybe:eek:. looks kinda like my marlin tho.
     
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    Wait a minute... What is a 19 year old doing in a bar anyway? I never did that when I was 19. :spy:




    ...ok, continue. :popcorn:
     
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    I'm all for making it harder for people to purchase guns, but I don't think that the gov't should make it so you cannot own one or many guns.


    I'll probably buy a handgun for everyday carry (Sig P229), shotgun for home defense (SuperNova tactical) and a rifle for the range (maybe a M1 Garand, I love those guns) once I'm able to afford them. Pistol will be defensive, shotgun will be defensive, and rifle will be for fun.
     
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    nice!!! i have an old marlin 30-30..............awesome brush gun(i deer hunt with it alot).
     
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    People that need Plaxic Burress needs gun control.:D Guns aren't dangerous its the morans holding them.
     
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    chris, more thorough background checks basically.

    but if someone owns many guns and they have no crimes to their name or to any of the guns that are registered to them, i think background checks should be more lenient for them.
     
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    I remember a time when it was faster to go buy a gun than it was to buy some milk. Seemed to be less crime too.
     
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