Gussets for LT on an overlanding build?

Do you mean topping out? There's no more risk of topping out with a shorter coil+preload vs a longer coil. At least I don't think so. Besides, limiting straps could be added for cheap, and you'll need those with LT anyways.

 

I'd love to do the ball joint but Toyota sucks and doesnt sell the ball joint alone. Neither does moog or anyone else. I had TC uppers for a while and didnt mind spraying the balls much. Never got to a point of squeaking. It's been worth considering. Instead of replacing a stock control arm once every couple years, just get the best quality I could afford and take care of it.

 

I mean maybe, I haven't heard of that being done, but maybe someone else could shed some wisdom on that. It's not my big issue here, but maybe something to try down the road.

 

I've heard of people doing it before. IIRC the stock length king coils are 12" and people will swap them for 14" coils. Just more stuff for you to research haha

 

Yay more research!!!!! I already have a damn headache lmao

 

Coming from someone who has had multiple brand lifts and now has full LT, reading your first post, you are wasting money going to LT. For the type of wheeling it sounds like you do, you won’t notice ride difference at all from your current set up to LT.

And as others have said, it doesn’t drive the same (mine is 3.5 front w/ bypasses and sua rear with 37’s). It sways a lot. Squeals. Rattles. Very expensive.

But hey...it’s your money. I didn’t need LT either. In fact I think in the last year mine hasnt gone off road once. Just my daily driver.

 

i get it but there is definitely some recoup when swapping suspensions. i will use mine also though.

not at all, still very comfortable

getting longer springs and lowering actual preload wont change ride quality. its still the same spring rate.

you dont have to lube them every month. i stopped and my squeaking stopped as well.

again dont need gussets unless you really beat ob it at speed

 

Preload affects ride quality, that's not even a question.

 

Can confirm, my kings ride MUCH different than they did before I leveled.

 

Yeah, these shocks have about 10k on them. They could still command over 1k in resale. That's a big chunk out of the LT cost for sure. SPC UCAs, old trdor rims I still have will all chip away at the total

 

Could always work the corner too. Though you might have some stiff competition there in LI

 

I'm in the bug killing game, I'll tell ya there are plenty of bugs to keep me going out here.

 

You could just do stock length lower control arms from dirt kings or total chaos and remove the ball joint but but do Lt.

I don't see why you need to do LT.

 

He doesn't even need longer coils just heavier ones. Kings cone with 600lbs no? Try 700lbs. Won't need to run as much pre load

 

That's assuming he's sagging from the weight of the added stuff, then yeah, stiffer would be the solution to gain height. And I think they come with 650 but don't quote me on that. It's all too rich for my blood.

 

Could be right I just assumed they were like fox and cane 600lbs.

But regardless if he's not prepared to do the rear LT as well I don't see a point in doing it.

And I wouldn't run it without gussets.

Fuck I'm not even LT and I'm considering gusseting the spindles and buckets . Cam tabs no doubt I'm definitely doing.

But then again my truck is just about overweight without any camping gear. So I'm just thinking make shit stronger.

 

Yeah agreed on pretty much all points. Have to match the rear to the front otherwise it's pretty pointless IMO. There are still benefits but you're nowhere near using LT to it's full potential that way. I have cam tab gussets and would like to get gusseted spindles at some point.

 

I think the idea to go LT just because you blew a ball joint is kinda fucked when you can ditch the ball joint by just getting stock length LCA from DK or TC.

 

You can but you sacrifice so much in daily drivability going LT.

 

not in the sense of a longer spring with less preload. a spring rate of 700lbs/inch compressed 1 inch or two inches has the exact same spring property. the only things that change are your uptravel/downtravel ratio when cranking on a coilover down which then in turn effects ride quality. a 10inch spring with 20 turns showing versus a 12inch spring with 16 turns (unrelated theoretical ratio number) has zero effect. changing to a longer spring causes spring block height to change and thats where a limitation can come into play.