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Hard start last night, brand new truck! WTF

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by RV7Garage, Jan 21, 2012.

  1. Jan 21, 2012 at 7:55 AM
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    RV7Garage

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    So I drove home from work, cleared the driveway of snow, and a few hours later the wife and I headed out for tacos. When I went to start the brand new truck... 2500 miles on her... she hesitated pretty bad! I had just filled up the tank on the way home, 93 octane premium (unneccessary I know, but I like it). It was like 16 degrees outside, but the engine was not cold-soaked. Things like that really make me question my choice of brands.

    Any ideas why the V6 would hiccup on start?
     
  2. Jan 21, 2012 at 7:57 AM
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    Hunter500ky

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    I'm kind of lost, how long did it take to start?

    Mine cranks a few times before it starts but it does that everytime
     
  3. Jan 21, 2012 at 8:04 AM
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    RV7Garage

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    Sorry.

    It cranked, almost caught but failed, cranked some more and finally caught.
     
  4. Jan 21, 2012 at 8:07 AM
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    Hunter500ky

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    I'd mark it up as a hiccup, my truck has done it.

    Could be a vary of things, now if it does it again then I'd be like WTF


    Plus you said it was 16 degrees outside?
     
  5. Jan 21, 2012 at 8:11 AM
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    RV7Garage

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    Yeah, it was cold... but the engine wasn't cold-soaked. It had bee up to full temp a couple'a hours earlier, so the core was still warm.

    I'll keep an eye on it, but still... shit like that shouldn't happen with a brand new $35k vehicle.
     
  6. Jan 21, 2012 at 8:11 AM
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    I found that if you try to bump start the V6 it tends to not start, then on 2nd attempt it cracks awhile before starting. Best to always crack on 1st turn till it starts.
     
  7. Jan 21, 2012 at 8:12 AM
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    any chance you disconnected the battery for any reason. my truck does that every time i disconnect the battery.

    Maybe the truck wasnt cold yet so it didnt spray the extra fuel in the cylinders. (fuel injection version of choke) and the air fuel mixture wasnt perfect for the 16 degree air hitting the combustion chamber.
     
  8. Jan 21, 2012 at 8:17 AM
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    For hard start:
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  9. Jan 21, 2012 at 8:21 AM
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    I always drop to 87 octane for the winter. Seems to start and run easier.

    What does "hesitated pretty bad" mean? Like, you had to crank the engine over and over for four or five minutes before it finally started?

    It doesn't matter what you pay for a vehicle, a $8,000 Nissan Versa or a $140,000 Ferrari are all just mechanical and electronic machines. Things happen. If it starts to be a pattern, take it to a dealership.

    Buying a different brand of vehicle is not going to change the fact that sometimes things happen.
     
  10. Jan 21, 2012 at 8:26 AM
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    Is this only an issue with the V6? I would be calling the dealer demanding an explanation. When we have problems like this on the new John Deere equipment the farmers are down our throat so quick. 150k$ tractor, you can't blame them.
     
  11. Jan 21, 2012 at 8:29 AM
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    I have only had one vehicle that started the same way every single time, my '96 Honda Accord LX. All others have intermittently had a long or hard start like you describe, including my '12 Tacoma with 2,800 miles on it.
     
  12. Jan 21, 2012 at 8:33 AM
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    OK, fair enough!

    Maybe my expectations are too high :rolleyes:
     
  13. Jan 21, 2012 at 8:37 AM
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    Mine's done this a few times since I owned it. I chalk it up to a hiccup in the system. No pattern but a handful of times in the years I've owned it, it's stuttered on start or required a double turn of the key.
     
  14. Jan 21, 2012 at 8:37 AM
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    Mine does this all the time, seems like some sort of a 2nd gen thing. All the time meaning once a week or so. Never very bad, just takes a second crank.

    It's always started for me tho.
     
  15. Jan 21, 2012 at 8:43 AM
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    Back in 2007 Toyota had a TSB (intermittent no start condition)... I had the reflash done on my truck within the first month after buying it and it's started up fine ever since. I don't know what their doing for the problem now days.

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    TSB... EG011-07 JUL 07 Engine Controls - Intermittent No Start Condition
     
  16. Jan 21, 2012 at 9:25 AM
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    at least yours didnt make loud "riiirrrrRRRRR!!! sounds

    this thing makes all kinds of noises starting when its -45*C


    sometimes I still miss my 4.3 vortec
     
  17. Jan 21, 2012 at 9:44 AM
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  18. Jan 21, 2012 at 10:51 AM
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  20. Jan 21, 2012 at 11:00 AM
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    This was common for me on my 05 4.0l Tacoma. It almost never started first crank. My 2.7L tacoma seems to always start first crank every time.
     
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