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Has anyone here know much about rehab facilities?

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  1. Aug 27, 2009 at 11:21 AM
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    I have a person in my family who is struggling w/drug addiction. We are planning an intervention really soon. I have been researching rehab centers on the internet for a couple of months now. I did not realize how many rehab centers their are in the US.

    Without getting to personal (I know this is a very personal issue)has anyone had to look into this before? If so is 28 days enough? That seems to short of a period of time. Is a treatment center that offers dual diagnosis better than one that does not? Is their anything I should keep an eye out for in looking into treatment centers? Are some better than others? The price range for treatment is very broad. These are only some of my questions. Any input would be helpful.

    Thanks!
     
  2. Aug 27, 2009 at 11:30 AM
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    Sorry...I can't offer much assistance. I do have a friend that checked into voluntary rehab for his pill addiction. He spent 28 days there and SAYS he is clean now.

    This kid had life on a platter. His dad owns a Jeep Dealer (top 10 in sales in the US) and his entire family works there. He was canned several times for missing work (sleeping in b/c of the pills) and is now living in a run down trailer with another couple I know.

    Really sad but hopefully his 28 days was enough. Personally, I think he'll fall back into it.



    That is a very tough situation and I wish you and your family the best in getting through this.
     
  3. Aug 27, 2009 at 2:15 PM
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    If the person realizes they have a problem and seriously want help they work. 28 days might be enough if they are serious in getting better.


    This has passed through my mind once or twice.........I know of someone who was pretty much forced into rehab and when they got out had more drug friends and connections as well.....like someone mentioned above.....went through the motions.....:mad:
     
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    Yeah...This is the problem with forcing folks to go to rehab. The military (at least the CG) will send you to rehab if you are a regular trouble maker with an alcohol or drug addiction (in addition to kicking you out and many other things)...and I've seen guys go that really learned something...and I've seen guys go that came back and were just as bad if not worse than when they left.

    Best of luck with the intervention- That's really the key. Making your family member realize that everyone else is concerned about their well being and thinks that there is a problem. If they come to grips with that and can see that rehab is what they need...Should go well.
     
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    I used to be heavy into hard drugs and have seen many of my friends go to rehab, all I can say is that it doesnt work. Its a house full of druggies that all have connections, one of my friends when he went there almost od'd on heroin while there. its up to the person to be mentally ready to go on with their life, they wont believe the teachers at rehab and they will do what they want. basically they need a big scare to straighten them out.

    Im not saying this is the case for everyone cause some people definitely get cured by going to rehab, but the ones that just arent ready to quit wont quit.
     
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    Many of my friends who were hard into drugs weened themselves off when we started loosing other friends. A teenager in a casket has a heavy impact.
     
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    Well I hope this family member does not serve as that heavy impact for others.
     
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    Best of luck!
     
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    Sorry man...I didn't mean to sound so grim. But that's the seriousness you need to instill in the addict.
     
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    I work in the criminal Justice Field, and have had some exposure to rehab clinics. Like everyone else said, the individual's success depends largely upon whether or not that individual wants to quit his/her habit. It's the old adage, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink". There is slightly more success when the individual is religious, and gets involved with a religion-centric rehab group. One big thing that I've noticed is the individual with the addiction must be willing to change three things:

    People-the group he/she hands out with needs to change, because there is a good chance they are enabling him/her
    Places- his/her physical location (town, community, hangouts) needs to change, because those places are most likely associated with the addiction
    Things-habits, and triggers that the person associates with his/her addiction

    I hope that helps some, best of luck to you and your friend
     
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    Much depends on the addiction and the willingness of the patient to accept help.
     
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    The serenity prayer is a common part of rehab/recovery.

     
  13. Aug 28, 2009 at 12:16 AM
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    I have 2 close friends that have went to rehab. 1 of them has been clean for a year and a half. He went on his own. The other just got back about 3 months ago. He was forced to go to Teen Challenge in Texas, he was there for a year. He just got took to jail about 2 weeks ago for stealing and selling some of his PARENTS things. I talked to him when he first got back, and he was telling me that the best coke he had ever done was in rehab. Some people will never change. I hope your family member can rise above his addiction. Good luck with the intervention.
     
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    Due to the profession I'm in, I see alot of this all the time. I can honsetly say that once majority of these people see first hand what can happen to them, they change their outlook on it. They don't think about the consequences of the actions and drugs they are on. One of my close personal friends was addicted to alot of heavy stuff and once he saw someone turn into a human skeleton from weight loss and go brain dead and just turned into a coma case, he said to hell with it and quit cold turkey. Been clean since! I am no expert but deal with this issue everyday and my information comes from the masses of people with addictions of all trades. I hear the stories and see the families going through the struggles as well.

    Good Luck!
     
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    I did my rotation in a psych/rehab center (medical staff!!:D) and it all depends on how committed the individual is, if the facility has support groups, and if the counseling proceeds after treatment so they have something to fall back on. . . .just in case. If they offers these 3 things, 28 days should be sufficient. Most of the patients i have encountered there go by a step program before getting debriefed and let back out into the world. Step by step prog meaning, there are different levels of counseling groups(ie red group week one, orange group week 2, yellow group week 3 and then get out of jail free card)and evaluations. As long as they make it to there support groups as prescribed, the individual will be evaluated and released fit for civilian world once again. In ur case, since it may be voluntary, u may have a different guide line + whatever the docs and counselors order. hope this helps.


    and. . .
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    we cant stomp brain cells there. . .

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    i dont know much bout rehab facilities but before my dad passed away he was really into drinking beer and when he hit rock bottom he went to a rehab place and the people there still had access to drugs, beer, etc. so my dad said it was nuts. but i guess try to find a real good place with positive feedback and such. but good luck. though.

    rip dad.
     
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    Im not sure but I think the 28 days has to do with insurance and what and how much they will cover. Its really hrash but drive the person thru a graveyard and tell them they will get there soon unless they change their ways.
     
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    great advice. A couple of years ago I was forced by the state of TX to enter an outpatient program for having a dirty UA @ probation. It was a few months long and cost me about $2500. Half the people there simply 'fake it to make it' but for those who are serious about changing can definately recover if they make a conscious effort to change thier friends, habits, activities, diet, etc - it takes a lot of determination and discipline for someone to make this change. It is possible and there is hope for everyone but the first and far most important change a person has to make is within themselves, they need to change the way they think. Replace thoughts of using with thoughts of the benefits of not using, etc. It really helps if they have a positive role model/sponsor who can keep them in line and help them improve themselves as a person.
     
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    Ok, first let me say that i have both personal experience in the realm of rehabs and professional experience. Having been a clinician for the past few years i can say the following:
    1. you will be lucky to get 28 days. It all depends on insurance and justifying need for services wich is getting more and more difficult
    2. Dual Diagnosis-this is really just a buzz word. If there is mental illness of some sort, it really cant be treated, diagnosed accurately, or medicated unless a person is sober for a significant period of time.
    3. Most rehab centers have a low success rate. Addiction is hard to treat and most people are not "stoked" to get sober.
    4. I would start focusing on aftercare. Ask these facilities what happens when the rehab/detox is complete. Where do people go for continued care? These are important questions.

    If you want more specific info, feel free to shoot me a PM. Best of luck to you and your family.
     
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    Thanks for your input all.........................

    Regarding aftercare I am looking into a sober living facility......My family member is in their late 20's at the moment (but does not act like it) so I don't think an outward bound type camp (wilderness) would do any good. I think we really need to see where this person is coming from (the addict)......I dont even know if they will admitt to a problem? Its a tough call...............................
     
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