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Has anyone installed a oil catch can in a 2019 Tacoma.

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by TRD Larry, Aug 12, 2019.

  1. Oct 8, 2019 at 6:01 PM
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    Jermstn

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    Im definitely going to be installing a catch can on my Tacoma after my experience with my ISF (also DI and PI), even though the ISF had extensive R&D done on blow by management my custom setup still managed to catch probably around 100-150ml of something whether it was oil, water or blowby acids?

    This picture was after I emptied most of it via windex spray trigger 6 months down the road. I also attached the PDF of the blowby system features.

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  2. Oct 8, 2019 at 7:23 PM
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    Thank you for wording you question the way you did. To be honest I don't know a lot about motorcycle engines and as I am an automotive mechanic. The oil separators on motorcycles are called different things by the manufacturer so we can't use the words "catch can". To have an intelligent conversation I think we can agree to say that a catch can is some type of oil separator. OK good.


    Here is a Honda 750 engine. You can see there is an air chamber separator. Don't ask me how this thing works as I really don't know, but Honda thought it was necessary. If I was to make an educated argument I would say that because bikes rev so high and fling oil like crazy inside (don't forget the transmission and engine oil is the same) they create a lot of mist, much more that a car or truck?

    2000-2003-Honda-CB750-Nighthawk-Service-Manual-page-1.jpg

    This is one off a Suzuki


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    This write up is about Yamaha

    ref:https://books.google.ca/books?id=fp...anese motorcycles have oil separators&f=false


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    https://www.psychobike.com/forums/suzuki-hayabusa/127153-return-oil-tank.html

    see post#2

    its just a tank/ bottle that catches the excess oil that blows out of the crank case. The oil will drain back into the case (Refers to GIXXER)


    http://www.chopcult.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15598


    post#2


    Triumph oil tank is engineered with some special return flow characteristics needed for proper rocker oil feed supply and specific breathing designs that separate the air from the oil, it is not just a container with oil in it.

    Here is a Yamaha engine below. #6 is the oil separator.

    I should note all these oil separators or catch cans on motorcycles are designed to drain back into the engine so they are maintenance free.


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    Now here is some interesting news..................

    I guess the Honda Civic has a factory oil separator on it. It is also maintenance free.Screen Shot 2019-10-08 at 7.45.51 PM.jpg


    We know the Hellcat has a factory separator in the valve covers, GM has a separate unit on the Camaro, Audi has them on top of their TFSI, same with VW so they are around. They are all maintenance free and drain back into the engine. I am seeing a trend here and that is maintenance free. We must keep in mind that maintenance is a huge thought for manufacturers and thats probably why we don't see the external aftermarket ones we talk about. If you don't drain it you can damage your engine and I believe thats why they are not installed from the factory (too much liability for user error). Each manufacture has their own way of doing things and some work better than others.

    I honestly think if you are not comfortable under your hood then you should not install one. If you are comfortable and check it regularly then it really can't hurt, but its really up to you. If the oil separator catches something, then that something is not going into your engine. One thing for sure is that if it is possible, it is always better to divert oil from entering the intake track if you can. It's always better to have clean air going into the engine. All manufactures work hard at that, as it reduces emissions, carbon build up and sludge.

    I understand there are people who say you don't need them and I appreciate their view, I'm not saying you do need one. I do hold the opinion that nothing is perfect and if we can improve something then why not? (keeping maintenance in mind that if you are not comfortable don't install one). Your truck will run without one, but will it be better with one? That's the question.

    Cheers
     
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  3. Oct 8, 2019 at 7:53 PM
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    TRD Larry

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    Just installed a catch can on my truck. It is a easy inexpensive install. I had one on my 2008 Tacoma didn’t seem to hurt anything. The truck had over 150,000 miles when I sold it. I empty it at every oil change, again not a big maintenance problem. In my mind I think it is a good thing, and that is all that counts to me. This thread has been very interesting reading, I have picked up a lot of valuable information.
     
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  4. Oct 9, 2019 at 2:02 AM
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    True, this thread is ridiculous, I don’t know why I keep coming back to it. Gonna try to explain my opinion again for the ‘regular’ guys.
    Engines have filters to make the oil, air and fuel cleaner. A catch can is just another type of filter that helps clean the air from the crankcase before it re-enters the engine. The ‘proof’ that they work is all the oil/water/blow-by-crap that is found in the bottom of every catch can of every single 3rd Gen owner who has installed one.
    -Why didn’t Toyota include one on 3rd Gens? I don’t know for sure but i’d bet it’s the same reason they cheap out on frame coatings.....$$$$
    -Is it worthwhile installing one? IMO, yes, they’re cheap and easy to install and will help keep your engine cleaner over the long term.
     
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  5. Oct 9, 2019 at 3:02 AM
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    I had a catch can in my '14 Corvette stingray and I rarely had anything in the can (didnt drive it much in the cold winter's here in Chicago. However, I also had one in my '17 Ford F150. In the winter months, I had to drain the sludge and greasy, oily, almost watery like stuff from the can weekly. In the summer months, it must have burned everything off because the can was always dry. I will not be putting a catch can on my '19 Pro, not sure it does anything good.
     
  6. Oct 9, 2019 at 4:39 AM
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    Here is the factory Toyota/Hino separator that was utilized on some of their Diesel engines. Later models receive a unit that is built into the cylinder head cover. It has a nice large capacity depth filter and can drain back to the sump if desired. Cheap and required insurance.
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  7. Oct 9, 2019 at 4:44 AM
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    Do you think this would be worth adding to our trucks?
     
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  8. Oct 9, 2019 at 4:55 AM
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    Depends on use and mods. The off road climbing and smoking videos are more than enough to convince me. With the Magnuson Supercharger being on the way shortly, this will be installed on my truck... oil mist lowers octane, with 11.8 CR, there is no room for taking the chance.
     
  9. Oct 9, 2019 at 7:43 AM
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    Catch cans are cheap, engines are expensive. Im going to add 2 catch cans to my truck this weekend, and im going to add a toilet paper bypass filter, and somehow hook up a filters to my trans, and diffs.
     
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  10. Oct 9, 2019 at 7:48 AM
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    Don't stop there. You need a windshield washer fluid filter too.
     
  11. Oct 9, 2019 at 7:50 AM
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    I totally would, IF I DIDNT ALREADY CHANGE IT DAILY
     
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    So that's where you get the ingredients for all those tasty cocktails.
     
  13. Oct 9, 2019 at 8:24 AM
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    You mean the screen on the washer pump? I’m sure it could be improved. Lol
     
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  14. Oct 9, 2019 at 8:29 AM
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    I dunno, those Toyota bean counters probably cheaped out. I hear Lexus uses a system originally intended for homes in Flint, MI. :laughing:
     
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    You win this whole thread hahaha
     
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  16. Oct 9, 2019 at 9:10 AM
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    Woodrow F Call Kindling crackles and the smoke curls up...

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    It lightens the wallet for faster acceleration and allows you to install a cool looking billet canister under the hood to impress your friends with.
     
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  17. Oct 9, 2019 at 9:42 AM
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    I've got some extra cash and I like impressing people.. Just tell me it comes with a sticker so people know I'm using it.
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  18. Oct 9, 2019 at 9:51 AM
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    Someone call Yeti. That's their specialty.
     
  19. Oct 9, 2019 at 11:17 AM
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    Woodrow F Call

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    I know that people pull gross looking samples from their catch cans, but that little bit of moisture is going to go through the engine and out the tail pipe..... You really won't have any real issues until you have to rebuild the engine anyways. Plenty of modern engines go 300K miles without one of these devices. I really don't see the need for one.
     
  20. Oct 9, 2019 at 12:29 PM
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    I didn’t read the first posts, but I wanted to add a catch can to try and prevent smoking at extreme angles while off roading. I think the idea was that the oil would sink into the catch can instead of getting burned off causing all the smoke.. but idk.
     

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