Has anyone installed a oil catch can in a 2019 Tacoma.

Yesssss

 

I know exactly what you are talking about, its a nice quality hose for sure. Forgetting about cans right now, what I did (we are talking install only) is use plastic nylon lines. Its what GM and most other manufacturers are using now. How I did it is in my vid and its easy to understand when you see. THURSDAY....... I will resurrect this thread on Thursday hahahahaha.

I hear what you are saying, and yes condensation occurs when the vehicle cools. Definitely happens no doubt and thats why you should change your oil more frequently for short trips, because acids build up in the oil. The thing with this argument is the catch can is minuscule compared to the size of the engine, so any "cool off" condensation would be a fraction, and I'm talking very small proportion of what the engine creates. I would argue its inconsequential. I'm just throwing out numbers here but it can't have more than maybe 10 square inches of surface area (maybe) while the inside of the engine would have a few hundred. So it might, maybe produce 1% of the condensation, maybe......... Not enough to be considered. What is actually does is remove the condensation from the engine when its cold and thats why they fill fast in the wintertime. Its probably %80 unburnt fuel and water and the rest would be oil. In the summer months there is almost no water in the catch can. Its pretty much all oil.

This discussion is a hot topic for many and I enjoy "good educated conversation" as we can all learn from each other. I'll put up a post with a link when my vid is up on Thursday for anyone that is interested.

 

Uggghhh....so wrong man. Not only am I right, but also better looking.

An internal engine is not a closed system. It never has been. Gallons and gallons of air enter the engine every second. A small portion of this air squeezes by the piston rings and valves seals upon compression stroke (fresh air) and detonation stroke (exhaust). This phenomenon created the need for crankcase ventilation in the first place. In the old days they just dumped the blow by straight into the atmosphere via a hose that ended underneath your car. After stricter pollution controls came in, they started feeding the blow-by back into the incoming air via a PCV valve.

 

geeeez......ughhh.......you’ve got the whole thing wrong man. Sorry. Tonnes of outside air in any engine, all day long. The crankcase would explode, or the gaskets burst, if they were sealed when the air inside heated up.

Blow by man!!! Blow by!!!!!

 

For anyone who incorrectly thinks an engine is a closed system:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crankcase_ventilation_system

 

There’s your water vapour. “Large amounts”

 

Ok so we have to run an oil tests before the addition of the catch can, another of the oil with a catch can, another with the fluid found in the can, and then once again afterward with the catch can removed. Make sure all driving conditions are similar. Should be a simple experiment.

 

I definitely enjoy the conversation.

As the engine is cooling the moisture is going to rise. The oil is going to be the last to cool. The metals will be the first. So, you will see that evidence in the catch can.

I could be wrong, but the acidic build up is not fast. So if short trips are the norm, a good long drive every week or two should happen. That said, the Taco warms pretty fast compares to others that we have had. I believe it was said that for us, the oil heats faster than the coolant, which is not the norm.

 

Here’s your next mod after the catch can...

 

Facts: that dood is 7ft 2in tall and there's no rubbing.

 

EXACTLY!!!!!!! BLOW BY!!!!! Thats what the catch can removes instead of stuffing all that blow by back into the engine to be re-burnt because you have a CLOSED system that CAN'T vent to the atmosphere. Its your choice, do you want your engine to burn blow by? I don't.

OK, I understand blow by, and this is considered a CLOSED SYSTEM, your wiki just labels it as a CLOSED LOOP. An open system vents to the atmosphere and production cars stopped that in the 60's I think, race cars use an open system to vent the blow by directly to the atmosphere.

I posted earlier that I get the condensation thing, but it is not the can. The can might account for like 1% with the other 99% of condensation coming from the engine. Because the PCV is a CLOSED system and does not vent to the atmosphere, but instead vents to the engine to get burned condensation will occur equally within the engine system. The engine has a much bigger volume than the catch can so the engine produces condensation when it cools, the catch can might product a bit but its negligible. Thats my point.

 

Whatever the arguments, the truth is that if you’ve installed a catch can, every time you empty it you’ll see that it’s stopping oil/water/condensation/fuel/piss/whatever from going back into your intake/engine. That’s a good thing.

 

Thanks

I just think people don't understand how it all works, the most simple explanation is the catch can is nothing more than an inline filter on the way to the combustion chamber and it removes stuff (what ever stuff we can agree on) to give the engine cleaner air to burn (its not burning the vapours). That is proven as it removes stuff (we all see it). So it's up to the owner to decide if he wants that stuff going into the engine. Maybe its ok, maybe its not, but I can't see it hurting to remove any impurities. The best combustion is with pure air and fuel so I feel why add stuff (water vapour, oil, whatever)

Thats my take.

 

Because every modern engine with a pcv system is wrong/bad. That’s like you saying you can make the engine better than the manufacturer can. I don’t know if any engines that have a catch can from the factory. Modern pcv systems are quite complex and generally do a good job with very little failure.

 

I understand what it does. I don't see the big deal with letting the engine burn the vapors it produced.

 

So according to that logic, OV Tune is no good?

 

Oh no, here we go again

Camaro ZL1 has a factory installed one
Most motorcycles have them installed from factory

Most manufactures don't put them on because its another maintenance item

Manufactures take the best middle road

Also we can make engines better than the manufacturer. The manufacturer is limited by laws, cost, etc. So they find the best compromise.

 

Way to take the discussion in a different direction. His tune is for power and efficiency. The manufacturer tune is everyday safe driveability without consideration for specific fueling and most importantly emissions

 

Ever seen an expensive VV turbo on a Cummins killed by the engines own EGR system? I have.
It’s not as extreme, but long term? Who knows. Like @2016Taco said, the catch can is like a filter.

 

So it’s boosted and makes tons of power and enough blow by that the manufacturer deemed it necessary to put one on.