Has anyone installed a oil catch can in a 2019 Tacoma.

EGR is an entirely different situation. Different mixture of gases, in a higher volume, way more often. Seems like a bad comparison.

 

Without arguing, that's what the Germans thought and now they are doing walnut blasting as regular maintenance. Just call an Audi dealer, they all know about it. You say, but we don't have an Audi, yes you are right. But they are all internal combustion engines and they don't run hot enough to clean themselves. If engines ran hot enough to clean themselves there would be no such thing as gummed up engines.

New technology is helping, it really is. We can all thank tough emissions laws for the longevity of these engines as it is these standards that brought in PCV, reduced oil leaks (remember old cars used cork gaskets) they can't anymore as they run much hotter and better materials are available.

I remember working on cars built in the 70's and 80's (still work on some) and man you better have gloves as they are dirty black, and it really goes into your skin, new cars don't do that. They are cleaner.

 

Again turbocharged vehicles with direct injection and no port injection.

 

motorcycles are not boosted?

I don't want to argue, but there are many things manufacturers would ike to add, but because of cost or people not wanting to service them simply won't. Today's society is all about convenience. There are a lot of other factors at play and a manufacturers hands are tied.

I'll use the new muscle cars as an example, Dodge could build a 1000HP Challenger that would sell like hot cakes, so why don't they. Same reason as GM and Ford. Emissions, cost etc. etc.

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I feel like there is a jump to conclusions mat involved here somewhere.

Audi is having trouble, with one or some of their engines, therefore all internal combustion pcv systems are flawed and the industry can't figure it out or is too cheap to fix it, therefore catch cans are necessary.

Am I getting that right?

 

You guys keep saying the same argument comparing our Tacoma engine to something that is radically different. All engines create blow by. Some more than others. Be happy Toyota even felt it necessary to install the port injection system.

 

No you are not getting it right. That point was directed to the people who believe we can't make things better.

I always want to learn and no manufacturer is King. I remember working once and came across a customer and he said that his brand was best. I asked him why and he said that's what his dad always owned and said, and his dad. You get it, the kid didn't even know why he thought his brand was best other than thats what they have always owned. Worked for them yes, but don't say its best if you can't back it up.

Also with your Audi comment, if I was on an Audi form there would be people defending Audi until the cows came home.

 

I can agree with that, but the engines are not radically different. They are all air pumping machines. Toyota makes great products.

 

The aftermarket is filled with millions of products that improve on all areas of manufacturers products; just look through this forum........As I understand it, OV Tune improves drive ability, passes emissions and improves power = IMO, Better than Toyotas tune.

Like I said, it’s an extreme example, but if there was some kind of aftermarket filter available to put between the EGR and Turbo, I would have installed one and wouldn’t have had that particular problem.......but Dodge would make less money because i’m sure they’re designed to last until the warranty is up.

 

You're the one who held up Audi as a reason, and made the generalization that internal combustion engines dont run hot enough to self clean.

I'm just trying to follow your logic.

 

I get what you're saying, although I don't find it a convincing argument. Are there examples of a PCV related failure on these engines out there?

I guess what would be nice to see would be a teardown of two engines, one with and one without, to see if there is actually a difference.

 

Doubtful that you'll find any pcv related failures of this motor. The pcv system wont kill an engine. If it clogs, you may get some oil leaks out of other areas b/c of pressure, but nothing that'll kill a motor afaik.
Where's the guys w/ 400k miles? I don't recall seeing catch cans on their engines, but maybe some installed them? I personally wouldn't install one on this motor b/c it's not necessary. Just marketing that makes people assume if one motor needs it, they all should use it.

 

No, you’re right, I can’t see this causing a major problem/failure in the short term. I installed my catch can because i’m thinking long term and plan on owning my truck for a while.
Yes, comparing two well used engines with even just a borescope camera would probably show the oil build up.

 

My posts would be too long if I listed everyone so I picked the easiest. Every manufacturer makes mistakes and people who don't believe this are just naive. I'll use Lexus as an example, Toyota's creme de la creme!!!

OK so I'll say it this way. Its too bad all the people believed in Toyota when they bought their new IS250's Some people I'm sure wanted catch cans but there were many who said trust Toyota, they last forever and hey its a Toyota, if the engine needed something surely Toyota would have done it, well a few years passed and Toyota's engine made the top 10 worst engines ever built. They had to extend warranties because of all the problems they had with misfires to plain out not running, but hey as so many say, Toyota knows what they are doing and you should trust them!!!!!

 

Hmm. One of these days I want to get a borescope inside my engine, its got over 200k on it and seems to burn zero oil, so I'm really curious what it looks like in there.

 

Yes where are all the people with 400K miles? wait, there are none yet as this is a relatively new engine. We can't compare it to older engines as its different. It was installed in our truck in 2016 and as a member pointed out, was in a few 2015 models. The IS250 mistake took a while to come out, not saying that will happen with our engines as they are better, just saying. When you throw out a comment like that I would like you to find me a 3rd Gen Tacoma with 400K miles please.

 

You don't have the same engine as us do you?

 

You would mostly see blow by that came past the rings on your very old worn engine that a catch can wouldn’t help you with. I just don’t understand the logic when Toyota went through the trouble of installing port injection specifically for the reasoning you are arguing.

 

That just makes things really complicated to follow. First it was Audi, now we're talking about Lexus apparently....

I'm just trying to understand the motivation behind these devices and I'm not getting anything concrete, which tends to make me suspicious. Over the years I have seen so many products that claim to solve non-existent problems that I am naturally skeptical.

 

People could not understand why Toyota built one of the 10 worst engines and had to nationally extended warranties, it happens