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Has anyone installed a oil catch can in a 2019 Tacoma.

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by TRD Larry, Aug 12, 2019.

  1. Oct 7, 2019 at 5:24 PM
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    Nope, I have no dog in this race. Just a seemly quite happy 3rz inexplicably housed in a really beat up truck.
     
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  2. Oct 7, 2019 at 5:25 PM
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    I had one on my Audi. But it was a turbo.
     
  3. Oct 7, 2019 at 5:25 PM
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    So first its Audi, now Lexus, ok, BMW had problems, ok where are we going, maybe there is a problem
     
  4. Oct 7, 2019 at 5:26 PM
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    Exactly, you don't have a direct injected engine which are prone to carbon build up.
     
  5. Oct 7, 2019 at 5:26 PM
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    The 2GR-FKS has tons of real world testimony with millions of miles, showing no real measurable benefit to an oil catch can. This isn’t a highly boosted EJ-257.

    Guy I know has 2 2016 Tacomas with a cumulative mileage of almost 400k between both trucks. Says it doesn’t burn a drop, and he runs Supertech every 7500 miles. That’s towing and hauling daily in temps regularly over 100 degrees. Ask any other higher mileage 3rd gen. I’m willing to be they have no oil issues either.
     
  6. Oct 7, 2019 at 5:30 PM
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    What about the 4GR-FSE ?
     
  7. Oct 7, 2019 at 5:31 PM
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    You mentioned Audi.

    I asked about Audi.

    You moved to Lexus.

    Now you've moved us to BMW.


    :annoyed:
     
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  9. Oct 7, 2019 at 5:34 PM
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    What about it? It’s there one under the hood of your Tacoma?
     
  10. Oct 7, 2019 at 5:38 PM
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    Mods are currently being changed .....
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    fine. 240k+. Is that better? It took me 30 seconds and a dozen thread topics to see someone already posted seeing one w/ that many miles. Theres a 2nd gen owner who claims to drive close to 100k a year. So stop calling out stupid shit just b/c youre not winning over the majority of people with an unnecessary mod.
     
  11. Oct 7, 2019 at 5:40 PM
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    Nope but 0xDEADBEEF doesn't own the engine we are talking about either.

    All I was alluding to is every manufacturer has issues as we have some people who it seems on the surface think that Toyota can do no wrong.

    I love my Toyota and think Toyota is great. All I wanted was to show a video I made about modding my truck by installing a catch can and the people saying you don't need it.

    You don't know if you need it or not so people should be free to choose what they want to do. Don't take that away from the forum members.
     
  12. Oct 7, 2019 at 5:41 PM
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    Does the 2nd gen owner have our engine?

    I'm not saying the mod is necessary or unnecessary, let members decide on their own. But don't say it's unnecessary.
     
  13. Oct 7, 2019 at 5:44 PM
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    Nobody has really doubted that Toyota is imperfect. IS-250s we’re having these issues widely even in lower mileage vehicles. There’s been zero inclination that the 2GR-FKS suffers from these issues, across a large mileage spectrum. That’s the data and testimony I’m going off of, along with actual people who have real world proof.

    Nor do you know for a fact if you need it or not for any reliability benefit. You’re free to do what you want with your truck. You’re also free to face constructive criticism when you publicly try and sell/debate it on an online forum. To each their own, but you don’t have much of a basis to go off of.
     
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    You don't know, you can't comment like you did, that's just hearsay. You say "The 2GR-FKS has tons of real world testimony with millions of miles, showing no real measurable benefit to an oil catch can." Please provide a link or somewhere where I can review this documentation for testing with and with out an oil separator. If you can provide I will gladly retract my statement.

    All I was trying to do is show a video (out on thursday) about a mod I was proud to do on my truck and you are flaming me? I don't get it.
     
  15. Oct 7, 2019 at 5:55 PM
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    I’m basing that statement off of the general consensus that this engine doesn’t have consumption issues. Have you seen any reports of this? Widespread? Toyota has sold hundreds of thousands of these. Has there been any trend out there to support your theory? I can’t give you raw data, but there’s plenty of testimony out there and even on this forum supporting my theory. It’s not flaming because I’m disagreeing with you. I’m not bashing or insulting you. I’m being direct and giving you my views.
     
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    When I see something I think is questionable, I ask questions. When I don't find good answers, I try to ask better questions. Whether I own a product or not has no bearing.
     
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    Still wrong man. Plug up your air intake if it’s a closed system. The air being discussed enters your engine for combustion through the air filter, from the outside world. It called a “closed PCV system as it is vented back into the intake, rather than out a pipe under the truck, but the blow-by still originates in the outside world, not your moms basement.

    C’mon man. Just admit you’re wrong. Crazy stuff!
     
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    You specifically wrote "The 2GR-FKS has tons of real world testimony with millions of miles, showing no real measurable benefit to an oil catch can" You have nothing to go on other than an engine introduced in 2016 has had no real problems. That does not mean it will in the future, thus the Lexus reference. Yes there are forum members reporting higher mileage, curious what's the highest mileage one now. Also not all failures are reported in this form or news unless its really bad.

    If you understand the PCV system you would know that a catch can't hurt. It's common in the performance world and installed by some manufactures. How can making the air cleaner hurt?

    I read an article tuning a performance engine where a catch can increased horsepower slightly because the race car had pure fuel and there was no vapours diluting the fuel. The knock sensors detected the lower octane and as someone commented the computer will adjust for lower octane, and yes it does by pulling engine timing thus reducing horsepower. Now on our Tacos I doubt we would ever feel a difference, but has anyone dynoed a Taco with and without one. Please let me know!!!

    We have seen in the past where these things have really helped. On the Chevy LT4 (Supercharged) guys have removed the supercharger cover to find oil. Then installed a catch can and checked and no more oil in the engine (ref: corvette forum) Does that mean it will do the same on our truck? NO!!!! But we do not know and I can't see a part designed for performance cars hurt our engine.

    You both came out swinging against this thing and were not part of the early more constructive discussion, you were both very opinionated and did not want to listen.

    They help on race cars and performance cars so I doubt it can hurt. Is it needed on this particular engine, I don't know and I'm not afraid to say so. But I won't say its unnecessary either until someone shows proof. We know the trucks will run with out them, but will they run better with them? Less vapour burnt also means less emissions, maybe O2 sensors will last longer. I don't know. Like I said before I was trying to show a mod and you are trying to shut me down. The conversation has gone from productive to opinionated and thats not productive. I'm not selling the things.

     
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    Look. You're selling the idea that these are a worthwhile mod. I never said I thought it would hurt, and I've been working hard to be polite. People have questions, people aren't getting good answers. I can see that this is going nowhere, so I'm gonna bow out.
     
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    this is what was in my quote that you said was wrong "Because the PCV is a CLOSED system and does not vent to the atmosphere, but instead vents to the engine to get burned condensation will occur equally within the engine system"

    Isn't that what you just wrote : "It called a “closed PCV system as it is vented back into the intake, rather than out a pipe under the truck"

    ??????????????
     

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