1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Hellwig Sway Bars for 3rd Gen?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by Dirty Harry, Aug 3, 2016.

  1. Aug 3, 2016 at 11:24 AM
    #1
    Dirty Harry

    Dirty Harry [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2016
    Member:
    #190180
    Messages:
    2,128
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Andrew
    Sarasota, FL
    Vehicle:
    2019 4runner TRD OR
    Victory 4x4 Rock Rails, ARB Diff Snorkel, LED Conversion
    I use my truck as a daily driver with occasional off-roading and light towing applications and as of now, it has a 100% stock suspension. I have moved to this truck from driving exclusively cars and I've noticed that when merging on to the highway I experience a little more body roll than I am comfortable with. Its nothing that feels super dangerous, but coming from a car I would like the ability to reduce some body roll for merging, strong cross winds, towing, etc.

    I know that previous generations offered TRD sway bars from the factory and I'm a little Toyota opted against this for the 3rd gens? Is it because I have a lowly SR5?

    Can I expect to see a noticeable difference by installing these? If I go with the rear how much improvement would I notice from using the front as well?

    NOTE: If I want to add a leveling kit and AAL later should I hold off?

    Thanks in advance for informative comments!
     
  2. Aug 3, 2016 at 11:29 AM
    #2
    Dirty Harry

    Dirty Harry [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2016
    Member:
    #190180
    Messages:
    2,128
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Andrew
    Sarasota, FL
    Vehicle:
    2019 4runner TRD OR
    Victory 4x4 Rock Rails, ARB Diff Snorkel, LED Conversion
  3. Aug 3, 2016 at 11:34 AM
    #3
    brich999

    brich999 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2016
    Member:
    #189910
    Messages:
    1,294
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Bryan
    Vehicle:
    16 Tacoma TRD Sport AC
    all tore up already
    raising suspension will always increase body roll. sounds like an odd combo to go higher and stiffer stabilizer bar
     
  4. Aug 3, 2016 at 11:40 AM
    #4
    Dirty Harry

    Dirty Harry [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2016
    Member:
    #190180
    Messages:
    2,128
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Andrew
    Sarasota, FL
    Vehicle:
    2019 4runner TRD OR
    Victory 4x4 Rock Rails, ARB Diff Snorkel, LED Conversion
    That's my concern, really. That's why I was looking to go sway bar. If I'm already not crazy about body roll my thought process would be to correct it some before I go higher.
     
  5. Aug 4, 2016 at 7:10 AM
    #5
    scottalot

    scottalot FooW

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2013
    Member:
    #105349
    Messages:
    113,736
    First Name:
    Stockalot
    Screw Dorian
    Vehicle:
    2018 tea four arghh Offroad 4x4 White LoveMachine
    Bone stock like Chicken in the Crock Pot .Dakkars,305/70/16 MT's, Extended length Fox Coilovers, Fox RR rear Shocks, Total Chaos UCA's, Dakar Leaf packs, LED Map and Dome, Breather relocate, Slimer from Ghost-busters starut up screen, Vent Visors, LED Pod's on Ditch Brackets soon, Level 8 Strike 6 Wheels, New MT Tars - Fierce Attitude, SOS front bumper -steel, SOS bed rack, LED white marker lights, LED reverse, TRD exhaust, Wheelers Super Bumps up front, SOS sliders bolt on with fill plates, Csjummper2003 White/Amber DTRL and white parking led bulbs, RTT rack basket Sold 2013, sold 2014 Tacoma. All listed stuff was on the '14 Bed Mat, WeatherTech Rain Guards, Ultra Gauge, TW Sticker amongst others, Useless Free OEM Bug Deflector, Flyzeye, OME Kit with 885's and Dakar and Nitro Shocks front and Rear . Tailgate mod, SOS Concepts 1/4" Skid Plate, White LED's interior Dome and Maps, Goodyear Wrangler MTR Kevlar 275/70/17, Wet Okole Seat Covers - full piping in Charcoal Grey, Lamin-X Green Fog light film, 17"x8 -10 offset Level 8 MK6 wheels in Gun Metal Finish, SOS Concepts Sliders W/ Kickout 12/21/14, Stubby antenna, LED reverse lights, lift removed 2/20/15 - making changes and trying to make up my mind
    I would not add sway bars.
     
  6. Mar 7, 2017 at 10:16 PM
    #6
    TacomaGinger

    TacomaGinger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2017
    Member:
    #209574
    Messages:
    167
    Gender:
    Male
    San Diego, CA...for now
    Vehicle:
    2017 TRD Off-Road
    Snugtop Rebel, Bedrug, Grillcraft
    And why...? I'm interested in possibly adding them as well and will be towing a larger trailer on a trip soon. Sway bars might add a little piece of mind if nothing else
     
  7. Mar 8, 2017 at 6:33 AM
    #7
    navin r

    navin r Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2017
    Member:
    #210206
    Messages:
    258
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2017 double cab short bed trd off road 4wd w/ premium pkg.
    My understanding is the pro has a slightly stiffer front sway bar, maybe because it sits up a bit higher in front? I would think adding the hellwig sway bars would definitely make a Tacoma corner a little flatter, but might also reduce suspension travel off road. If you're concerned about the truck swaying more than a car, I wouldn't do any front level or anything else to raise the truck up.
     
  8. Mar 8, 2017 at 6:42 AM
    #8
    c4lvinnn

    c4lvinnn Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2016
    Member:
    #198603
    Messages:
    2,135
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    '17 TRD Off Road DCSB
    Same thing can be achieved by stiff(er) front springs and rear leaf pack. You can keep the front at OEM height with coilovers or even some 5100s.
     
  9. Mar 8, 2017 at 7:12 AM
    #9
    Clay7160

    Clay7160 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2016
    Member:
    #194623
    Messages:
    1,164
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2018 MGM TRDOR DCLB 4x4
    GYEON ceramic coating
    Sways would help your on road feel and improve feeling when towing without stiffening up the suspension unlike stiffer springs up front and leaf packs. The only time that it would decrease performance is when you need the tires to independently operate of each other like rock crawling or severe off-roading.
     
    rlx02 likes this.
  10. Mar 8, 2017 at 7:39 AM
    #10
    TacomaGinger

    TacomaGinger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2017
    Member:
    #209574
    Messages:
    167
    Gender:
    Male
    San Diego, CA...for now
    Vehicle:
    2017 TRD Off-Road
    Snugtop Rebel, Bedrug, Grillcraft
    Thanks. Plus I'm guessing its a lot cheaper than new/stiffer springs and leafs. I only have a 4x2 so I most likely wont be doing too much severe off-roading
     
    Clay7160 likes this.
  11. Mar 8, 2017 at 7:44 AM
    #11
    CanyonRunner

    CanyonRunner 100% PENETRATION

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2015
    Member:
    #171316
    Messages:
    215
    Gender:
    Male
    Pacific Northwest
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD 4X4 DCSB
    $$$ Money Pit $$$
    I know this maybe a little off topic here, but hope it helps someone.

    I have had owned a FJ, 5th gen 4Runner now a Tacoma, all lifted with KING coilovers, superbumps, rear bags and have always removed the front sway bar. Even though my suspension rides amazing, the Tacoma has been slightly different.

    I got to thinking what is different other than being leafs vs coils in the rear, and thought of the rear sway bar which I never removed and the Tacoma doesn't have. I do have a canopy installed if that makes a difference, closer resembling a SUV.

    I offroad very often, but my terrain is desert, washboard roads, sand, etc. Rather than stiffening up the rear suspension even more to compensate and then have a shifty ride on road I added the rear sway bar. With the front bar removed, it allows the IFS to move independently and the rear side to side rocky motion drastically reduced. All I can say is I am very happy with the outcome now!!!!
     
    Clay7160 likes this.
  12. Mar 8, 2017 at 7:51 AM
    #12
    St.Germain

    St.Germain 4° caster

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2016
    Member:
    #193316
    Messages:
    6,149
    this is true and the real consideration. folks going actually off-road often remove the bars to get more easy independent movement side to side.

    i have this Hellwig rear bar installed set on the soft setting (3 mounting points), and i have a pair of Sumosprings back there as well. i'm on stock Pro suspension with E tires, but i have kept the sizing stock: 265/65-17, no a/m lift or any of that.

    i added the Hellwig because i'm on the road 99.8% of the time, and i'm a mad driving enthusiast who lives to toss vehicles around to their limit, whether a sports car, a pickup, golfcart, or other. the Pro has a terrific suspension, i love it and don't wish to change it at all, aside from removing some rear roll and tightening up the rear somewhat. mission accomplished. the handling is exactly where i want it and i'm not changing anything else with the setup for now.
     
    TRDPro75, Clay7160 and rlx02 like this.
  13. Mar 8, 2017 at 8:15 AM
    #13
    eurowner

    eurowner Duke Sky

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Member:
    #211429
    Messages:
    860
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Scoty
    The Syncro Ranch, Salida ColoRADo
    Vehicle:
    '17 TRD Off Road DCLB Silver Sky Met
    TRD Exhaust, Mobtown 0* sliders W/fill plates, Mobtown Recovery Bar, Snugtop Hiliner Sport topper, Firestone airbags, 265-75-16 Toyo Open Country ATII.
    My '94 Chevy K2500 Suburban did not come with a rear sway bar. Yet all of the 1995-99 do. I put a Hellwig on and it did make the wagon a much better handling vehicle. Off roading on Colorado high elevation trails, I did not notice any problems with rear wheel articulation.
     
  14. Mar 8, 2017 at 8:33 AM
    #14
    TacomaGinger

    TacomaGinger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2017
    Member:
    #209574
    Messages:
    167
    Gender:
    Male
    San Diego, CA...for now
    Vehicle:
    2017 TRD Off-Road
    Snugtop Rebel, Bedrug, Grillcraft
    So is Hellwig the way to go if I wanted to install the rear sway bar? About how long would it take the dealer to do...sadly I dont have the tools
     
    Clay7160 likes this.
  15. Mar 8, 2017 at 8:35 AM
    #15
    St.Germain

    St.Germain 4° caster

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2016
    Member:
    #193316
    Messages:
    6,149
    4wheelparts.com sells it, and they have brick & mortar locations with install shops, and they installed mine. i guess a dealer would do it but i trust dealers about as much as... well wait i don't trust dealers with anything generally..
     
    Clay7160 and TacomaGinger like this.
  16. Mar 8, 2017 at 9:54 AM
    #16
    busticator

    busticator Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2015
    Member:
    #167014
    Messages:
    357
    Gender:
    Male
    FL
    Vehicle:
    2016 Tacoma SR5 DCSB
    CPS rev2
    How hard is the install? Do you have to drill holes for the rear? Can't find an instruction set online.
     
  17. Mar 8, 2017 at 10:33 AM
    #17
    St.Germain

    St.Germain 4° caster

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2016
    Member:
    #193316
    Messages:
    6,149
    i believe there is a hole to be drilled on each side, and the u bracket wraps the axle housing. it's a straightforward install, but i didn't do it myself so i can't say more about it.
     
  18. Mar 9, 2017 at 4:06 PM
    #18
    TacomaGinger

    TacomaGinger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2017
    Member:
    #209574
    Messages:
    167
    Gender:
    Male
    San Diego, CA...for now
    Vehicle:
    2017 TRD Off-Road
    Snugtop Rebel, Bedrug, Grillcraft
    Yeah there is some drilling involved. I just ordered my Hellwig 7744 for the rear. I think its worth the investment and if I dont like it I will just remove it :)
     
  19. Mar 9, 2017 at 4:14 PM
    #19
    St.Germain

    St.Germain 4° caster

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2016
    Member:
    #193316
    Messages:
    6,149
    when mine was installed i asked to have it set on the soft mounting point but the installer set it on medium, hole 2. it felt really tightened up in the rear, road car style.

    i returned for inspection and retorque a few hundred miles later and had him put it on the soft setting at that time. big difference going from hole 2 to hole 1. keep in mind there's a stiff point as well.

    i really like having a tight handling rear, but in this front heavy one-legger i'm keeping compliance and staying on the soft setting. there's basically no preload there and has stock traction at lower speeds and more casual handling, which i want for wet or icy weather.

    so, i'm just saying you may want to play with your setup a bit to give it a real evaluation.
     
    TacomaGinger likes this.
  20. Mar 9, 2017 at 9:19 PM
    #20
    TacomaGinger

    TacomaGinger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2017
    Member:
    #209574
    Messages:
    167
    Gender:
    Male
    San Diego, CA...for now
    Vehicle:
    2017 TRD Off-Road
    Snugtop Rebel, Bedrug, Grillcraft
    So the medium setting was a bit too aggressive for everyday driving?
     

Products Discussed in

To Top