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Help 2008 immobilizer, Truck keeps getting locked out with no start,

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by 1997tacomav6, Aug 10, 2016.

  1. Aug 10, 2016 at 8:55 PM
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    1997tacomav6

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    Need some help from someone I hope.
    I have 1997 Tacoma with 500,000 miles and my brother has a 2008 Tacoma with 75,000 miles.
    Last week on a long trip 500 miles away from home in the middle of no where,
    he was filling up the truck and it wouldn't start.
    Long story short he got the truck to the Toyota dealer and they said it was an immoblizer issue. So they replaced the
    ECU,
    replaced the immobilizer,
    new key, and
    rewired the bypassing wiring harness all for 2500.00
    So the truck was running great and started just fine.
    Now 2 weeks later the truck wount start again.
    It starts sometimes and then other times will not start.

    What in the world to do now??? Is there a way to bypass the whole immoblizer system,
    Any advice please
     
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  2. Aug 11, 2016 at 2:11 PM
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    LunaticConcepts

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    I doubt you could bypass it, but since he just had all that work done, take it back and have them fix it.
     
  3. Aug 11, 2016 at 2:26 PM
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    The dealership that did the first attempt was on his vaction route 500 miles away and had it for 5 days trying to figure out the problem.
    Its now at another Toyota dealership by his house and they are looking at it starting with 175.00
    diagnostic test on top of the 2500 already paid to the other Toyota dealership.
    What a disaster Toyota has created in these Tacoma's with the immobilizer's and has only 75,000 miles. They take no responsibility and are happy to charge 2500
    for the repair that still did not fix the problem
     
  4. Aug 11, 2016 at 4:31 PM
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    I had the same problem in my 08. It does not sound like the immobilizer. If it is the immobilizer, the truck will start, run for about 2 seconds and then shuts down. This happens when the code that is sent to the immobilizer is not correct. If the truck starts sometime then the keys, and the immobilizer is not the problem. In my case it was the transponder amplifier that sends the code to the immobilizer. Sometimes it would send the code to the immobilizer and the truck would start, sometimes it would not send the code and the truck failed to start. All the truck would do is crank, like if you were trying to start it with the valet key. The transponder amplifier was $384.42. Toyota told me the same thing, no guarantees this would fix the problem, just their best guest. So far it has been about 3 weeks and almost 200 starts. So far so good. Let me know if you have any questions, I will be glad to give you any help I can. I went through this and it is a very helpless situation. One thing with me is, until the part was replaced the truck not starting was happening move often than not.
     
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  5. Aug 11, 2016 at 6:55 PM
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    Ok excellent, I will try that route now with the dealership, thanks
     
  6. Aug 11, 2016 at 7:28 PM
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    Are you referring to the black ring electronic piece that fits around the ignition? If that was the case I hope that $384 was not just for that part, it's only like a $110 piece.

    And @1997tacomav6 IF you do go the route to replace the transponder amplifier piece that goes around the ignition it is super easy to do yourself. Just order the part for the $100 or so and its simple remove steering column plastic cover and then plug n play. This should be the correct part number but you should double check: 8978304010
     
  7. Aug 11, 2016 at 7:30 PM
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    No that's the antenna for 110.00, immobilizer CPU is 380.00. It could be either part that's no good
     
  8. Aug 11, 2016 at 7:39 PM
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    I was referring to Larry calling it a "transponder amplifier" which is the "antenna" piece around the ignition.

    Hopefully it's the cheaper part that is the problem :)
     
  9. Aug 11, 2016 at 8:43 PM
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  10. Aug 12, 2016 at 8:33 AM
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    The transponder amplifier part number is 89780-04011. This is a square computer assy. module that plugs in behind the gauge cluster on my truck. The gauge cluster has to come out to get to the module. Then it is a simple unplug the old module and plug in the new one. Toyota says it is very rare that this module goes bad but they have seen it happen. The dealer had to order the part, there were 5 or 6 available and they were all on the west coast. This was right before July 4th so with the Holiday it took 7 or 8 days for the dealer to get it. Replacing this module was a suggestion made by the Toyota Tech helpline the dealers use when they are stumped.
     
  11. Nov 18, 2016 at 1:07 PM
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    John, would like to know how you made out on your problem.
     
  12. Nov 18, 2016 at 2:00 PM
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    Hello, is my brothers truck and Corporate Toyota has stepped in to try and figure out the problem
    as evey part has been replaced and the truck still will not start, has been thru 2 Toyota dealers
    and neither dealer can find the problem
     
  13. Nov 18, 2016 at 3:12 PM
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    Have you been without the truck all this time? I would think if they cannot find the problem they would be replacing the truck. Usually the harder the problem to identify the easier it its to fix. Good luck.
     
  14. Nov 18, 2016 at 3:13 PM
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    Appreciate the update. Thanks
     
  15. Nov 18, 2016 at 3:31 PM
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    Thanks, nope, there are no warranties, and neither of the 2 Toyota dealer wants anything to do with this problem, this truck,
    as they both have spent hours and hours with no results, So files a claim with CORPERATE TOYOTA
    and still waiting for a Toyota engineer to come inspect the truck while the truck just sits.
    I'm glad my 1997 Tacoma is before the imbolizer, :)
     
  16. Nov 18, 2016 at 4:44 PM
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    Ran into the same problem with the 2 Toyota dealers I had to deal with. They are not very good at figuring out the problem. In the end they made a lucky guess and it fixed the problem. Have close to 1000 starts since I got it back.
     
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    It would be helpful if you posted what it was that they fixed.
     
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    The transponder amplifier part number is 89780-04011. This is a square computer assy. module that plugs in behind the gauge cluster on my truck. The gauge cluster has to come out to get to the module. Then it is a simple unplug the old module and plug in the new one. Toyota says it is very rare that this module goes bad but they have seen it happen. The dealer had to order the part, there were 5 or 6 available and they were all on the west coast. This was right before July 4th so with the Holiday it took 7 or 8 days for the dealer to get it. Replacing this module was a suggestion made by the Toyota Tech helpline the dealers use when they are stumped.

    TRD Larry, Aug 12, 2016 Edit Delete Report
     
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    V6 5sp,RegCab,TVS1320 Supercharger, 56mm pulley, methanol injected Haltech ECU, AC Tvs1320 supercharger,(MUST DO) every 125,000- 150,000 needs rebuild Projector headlights HID 5 speed manual Amsoil for all drive train Smaller 56mm custom pulley, (MUST DO) 2004 DESNO fuel injectors, zero ping ping, 2004 side door mirrors Dick Cepek Rims, Michelin tires LTX, ATM Pathfinders Dynopro ATM ( that last 100,000 miles) Now running Dynopro ATM mud and snow tires KN cold air intake Cat back dual exhaust with ss exhaust tip, Raised exhaust tail pipe to 2" below body line Optima*dry cell battery,red top Alpine sirius radio, 200 watt amp, focal is165 split door pod speakers Focal door speakers Subwoffer behind seat Viper alarm, Electric Locks Dark tinted windows, bucket seats corbeau lg1 Tacoma Rubber floor mats TRD fender extenders, Bilstien shocks, King shocks JBA UCA trailer iv hitch, electric brake control, Drilled slotted brakes, High carbon steel (MUST DO) EBS green stuff 7000 series pads(MUST DO) TRD engine oil cap TRD stick shift, Marlin crawl shift kit. Rear sliding window 2002 4Runner functional hood scoop cut into Tacoma hood, 4Runner dual overhead map light Gentex Auto dim + Compass + Temp, garage,rearview mirror Snow Methonal kit stage 2 Custom 3 core aluminum radiator Linex bed liner Haltech stand alone ECU, Intake supercharger gauge. Stainless steel brake lines, Custom leather wrapped steering wheel, Haltech stand-alone ECU,
    Evey part that has to deal with the immoblizer was replaced and still the imbolizer system is not working
    At 2500 for parts and labor It's a good piece of lawn art right now, 3 months later just sits waiting for
    corporate Toyota to find the problem
     
  20. Nov 20, 2016 at 8:20 PM
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    Taco Addiction We found Jimmy

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    Kings, SCS Wheels and other mall crawling crap

    This.

    Had the same issue on a piece of shit 2015 Chevy Camaro. Try this. Yeah...I know.. :anonymous:
     

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