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HELP identifying a spider. "pics".

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by Matic, Oct 28, 2010.

  1. Oct 28, 2010 at 6:02 AM
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    Some of you may have seen the pic of the female black widow that I found at the bottom of my stairs on the baseboard last nite in the "live" thread.
    Didn't have time to mess with her so I caught her in a glass and headed off to work.
    This morning when I checked on her she was fine and in the very corner in her cobweb was another spider. This one much smaller with longer legs in proportion to it's body. I know the male black widows are smaller and brownish in color and the legs are longer but the pics I find doing a google search look different.
    Can anyone that knows about spiders either confirm or deny the smaller spider is a male black widow? If it's not, what kind of spider is it please.

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  2. Oct 28, 2010 at 6:05 AM
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    I can find any google pics of a male that looks like this. I'm quite sure it isn't a juvinile or there would be more. Hopefully someone on here is a resident arachnoligist.
    Did a pretty thorough sweep thru of the house and garage and didn't see any more. Hopefully it is an isolated case.
     
  4. Oct 28, 2010 at 6:13 AM
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    male black widow is much smaller than the female.....and, are not black

    that is female
     
  5. Oct 28, 2010 at 6:14 AM
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    jeez, those give me the creeps...good pictures though. I don't think its a black widow...haven't seen that one before though. The only reason I can think of that that might be a black widow is a "kind of" hourglass on its ass. rear legs aren't really proportional like they should be..
     
  7. Oct 28, 2010 at 6:19 AM
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    hmm. The one I have doesn't look like the one on the left. This one looks like a crab kinda with it's legs out to the side and it actually kinda walked like a crab sideways. The male in the pic has them going forward. Trying to look at other south carolina spiders.
     
  8. Oct 28, 2010 at 6:19 AM
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    The brown one, right?
    Cause the black one is without question a female black widow.
     
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    ask chris sure he can help
     
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    I noticed that too. I thought maybe it was just the position the spider was in. :confused:
     
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    running crab spider?
    a big help to those who want spider IDs is noting the number of eyes, either 6 or 8, its a good start in the ID process.
     
  13. Oct 28, 2010 at 6:24 AM
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    That has to be it. And that would explain the way it was running and the second set of legs does look longer. So they are native to SC I am guessing. Trying to read the article.
     
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    ^that one hase proportional legs.

    his image, the front 4 legs are 3 to 4 times as long as rear legs
     
  15. Oct 28, 2010 at 6:24 AM
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    Found these pics of a male black widow. Not sure if the one you found is a male but im no arachnoid specialist.
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    black widow.... male and female

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    Same family...........

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  18. Oct 28, 2010 at 6:31 AM
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    Well, Greg has a point but it was definately running sideways under the glass when I caught it. It was also in the same web as the female black widow that I caught lastnite. The article stated that the running crab spider doesnt build a web it hunts down other prey like a jumping spider. (Those things scare the shit out of me as well).
    So I am beggining to think it might be a juvinile running crab spider and was over in the black widows cobweb hunting. I didnt see any eggs or eggsack and no other widows in the house. So I hope it's all good. I might call someone anyway.
     
  19. Oct 28, 2010 at 6:32 AM
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    Definately not a male black widow in my pics.
     
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    ding ding ding

    yep that looks like it.
    possibly a juvenile?
     
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