Help me add load capacity conservatively

Sigh. Bilstein 5100's. Set them stock height for now. As you hang weight, take them up a notch to level it out.

 

your girl says it doesn't really help the weight feel more supported....

"So the design intent of the 6112’s are for added performance and lift not really weight support. With a 600lb coil spring they will sag under load. IF the load you have is a good amount they will sag quite a bit. When off-roading the truck will feel under supported and some people mention a po-go affect. I have a customer right now with a similar set up to yours and his 6112’s are maxed out and he is not happy with the sag and feel. So yes the 6112’s are adjustable so you can add more preload to the coil in order to gain height or try to offset loss of height due to added weight. And yes this can make the ride firmer but that isn’t to say that by doing so you would be able to mitigate the feel of the weight. Now of course it is ultimately up to you but given the limited amount of adjustments of the 6112’s and the lack of flexibility that that creates with coil swaps etc it can be harder to play around with them then you can a true coilover unit. "

 

I'm still trying to figure out how anyone with a truck built towards off road is under that weight .Because with skids sliders, dual battery and lift I'm only a few 100lbs under it. By the time gear is added in definitely over and I don't even have a bumper like many others...

 

sounds like the OME medium kit is the most efficient use of my money

 

Thank you again @OnHartung'sRoad

 

You mean medium duty Dakar?
I have them. They're great unloaded. Very smooth. But loaded they're meh. Better than stock but still not that great.

Not that I will change them or would've got the heavy duty ones I wish when loaded for camping the back didn't squat as much as it does

 

Thank you too @hiPSI

 

Nothing wrong with that choice at all. Have fun with it!

 

It's not what I want to do though. Just still trying to understand how to go about it in a more minimilasitic way

 

Unfortunately, you presented a complex challenge. It would be easy if you already were maxed out weight wise. But your expectation of having the same ride and handling loaded and unloaded is tough.

 

They were still somewhat new and not many had them.

Like I said I don't actually mind as I drive unloaded anytime I'm not off road and the hd would've been too rough.

Even off road I haven't actually had really much of an issue .I don't have the rear squat more because I still have rake .If I was level though I'd have a slight issue. And this isn't really with a lot of weight in the bed...

Really my only issue is I'd expect them to handle the weight a tiny bit better but it's not a factor that would even make me consider changing. Basically I just want something somewhere in between the two .

 

Man, you are a senstive one aren't you? lol.

Sounds like a good setup. What are airbags and cups? I want to keep it as simple as possible

 

Omg my goodness. I'm sorry I left out the "I'm fucking kidding" emoji on the "ya'll suck" comment. I was just being dumb, Jeeeeeeesus!

 

I’m sorry too, wrong room...


OP: you did get some good advice here, obviously we all have a lot of favored setups from low cost to expensive. Good thing is that you also probably have locals near you that are on here you can get in touch with using the regional threads to see what they’ve done in person and get a much better idea on what to do. Some of them may even help out with the installation if you go to a local build party.

 

I think you answered your own question lol.

I'd be willing to bet most fully kitted out trucks are at or over the legal load limit with just a driver and no gear.

 

Get the 2WD SR Access Cab for 1600lbs payload Capacity.

 

You have 2 viable options:

#1 Pack lighter
#2 Buy a bigger truck.

 

Seriously I went to the dump and after being weighed leaving unloaded I was still 5400lbs lol


Water and fuel alone would put me over weight

That being said I'm guessing a lot of that comes down to the weight the suspension and tires can handle and not the brakes as you can tow a lot more without trailer brakes. But our brakes still suck lol.

Frame and other structural components as well but I'd imagine they have a rather large buffer of safety as they know people will be overloading

 

yea, there is some good info in here for sure. My local shop recomended a EMU kit.

Things I'm still trying to uderstand:

-some people are saying "5100s in the front and thats all you need for now" while others are saying 5100s wont help you feel like the weight is handled better

-not many people mention springs to me, just one person on facebook and I think Marie but I'm not sure, but beefing up the springs seems like a logical thing to do. Is it possible that 5100s and new springs would get me by for a while? Or the 6112s come with a new spring, so if I do the 6112s will I handle weight better? some people say yes, some say no. Marie says no.

-Maybe I should just do the leafs in the back, and leave the front alone all together for now, and do some driving? I'm about to add 150 pound sliders and 90 pounds of skid plates, and when we are overlanding there's water, fuel, girfriend and junk

-This is hard, and I appreciate everyone's help, except for Mr Sensitive >.<

 

Yea, I'm just starting to wrap my head around this, lol. There is no way fully kitted out trucks with passengers, fuel, and water are under. But isn't that number usually determined by the weakest link in the system, and isn't that the springs? So i know you can't change it because it's a number determined by the manufacturer, but doesn't the number have to do with the limitations of the suspension? So if the suspension was pumped up, couldn't you theoretically increase the rating? You'd be limited once the brakes or frame or whatever became the weak link.... is that crazy talk?