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Help! One wheel not spinning in 4 wheel drive!

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Ceddingermtb, Dec 25, 2020.

  1. Dec 29, 2020 at 1:01 PM
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    Ceddingermtb

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    Sorry for confusion, I'm horrible at explaining things fully through text
     
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  2. Dec 29, 2020 at 1:02 PM
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    Ok, not driveline bind then.
     
  3. Dec 29, 2020 at 1:03 PM
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    From what I can make out my money is still on different gear ratios front/back, need confirmation on what they are but sounds like you'll have to test them to determine.
     
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  4. Dec 29, 2020 at 1:26 PM
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    100% OP still needs to confirm ratios match. Not convinced on driveline bind though. "slushy" isnt exactly a high friction scenario haha

    Could be as simple as real shitty conditions. Sometimes driving over slush or snow is just enough to compact it and turn it into pure ice. Makes turning difficult regardless of 4x4 operation.

    OP, did you ever actually see the wheel bind, or are you basing that on the fact the turning was difficult and non responsive in this scenario?
     
  5. Dec 29, 2020 at 1:35 PM
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    I've seen it bind, yes
     
  6. Jan 6, 2021 at 8:38 PM
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    Just now tried, no luck, and no video, but got the old diff taken apart right now
     
  7. Jan 6, 2021 at 9:05 PM
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    Counted the gears, I got 41 on the ring, and 11 on the pinion which I believe is 3.73. So my guess is that diff might be a reg can diff or a manual
     
  8. Jan 6, 2021 at 10:08 PM
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    I hope you didn't do all that just to determine the gear ratio. You could put in in 4wd, transmission in neutral, jack up one whole side of the truck only, spin the front tire twice, and count the revolutions of the driveshaft. Whatever you count is your gear ratio. Then spin the rear tire twice and count the rear drive shaft revolutions. Question answered in 5 minutes.
     
  9. Jan 6, 2021 at 10:11 PM
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    In 2wd with ADD the ring gear, carrier, pinion, and front driveshaft are not going to be spinning. The driver side CV will be spinning the differential (side and spider gears) inside the carrier and the passenger side wheel will be spinning everything up to the ADD.
     
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  10. Jan 7, 2021 at 1:40 AM
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    3.73 is stock ratio for 6cyl manual or automatic trucks, regardless of trim level. Regular cabs have 4.10 or 3.58 depending on drivetrain. So anything else abnormal in the diff to cause binding? Did you look at the clutch hub in the ADD?
     
  11. Jan 7, 2021 at 3:36 AM
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    If this thread is any indication, I would expect he took it apart to see what was causing it to bind up.
     
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  12. Jan 7, 2021 at 8:31 AM
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    Yes, but if mismatched gear ratios were a theory, it didn't need to be disassembled at all to determine that. Once that was determined to not be the issue then disassembly may make sense.

    Honestly, you could trouble shoot this whole thing with fairly high certainty of locating any problem with just jack stands and a jack. But the hard way sounds fun too.
     
  13. Jan 7, 2021 at 2:12 PM
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    I took apart my old diff that was sitting on my deck, took like 5 minutes. So I'm assuming I have Mis matched gear ratios.
     
  14. Jan 7, 2021 at 6:03 PM
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    Pretty sure the old diff sitting on the deck isn't causing your binding. What's the ratio of the one in the truck? No need to assume, be sure.
     
  15. Jan 7, 2021 at 6:23 PM
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    You could also get the entire truck off the ground and see if it all spins in 4hi. Pay a tire shop $20 to put it in the air.
     
  16. Jan 16, 2021 at 3:03 PM
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    Well I know it's most likely the wrong ratio after finding out what's in the old one that used to match the rear
     
  17. Jan 16, 2021 at 3:06 PM
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    Too many posts to read, but you could try putting it in 4HI and going in reverse to see what happens.
     
  18. Jan 16, 2021 at 3:32 PM
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    Tell me more ...
     
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    Not much more to tell, I just remember unlocking the old hubs that way. I try lots of shit before I start taking things apart.
     
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    that doesn’t work on these systems.
     

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