Help Toyota fan losing faith

Yup. I really hate all the "guessing". I'm a mechanic(non-automotive), and all this guessing & parts-changing is crazy. It's a Toyota 4-cylinder, just take it apart & find out what's broken!

 

They are 100%

 

I am.tlod they are by more then a few now

 

Boy, That's bad luck. Hope it turns out OK in the long run.

I Think I'd have a long talk with the 1st repair shop. The $100 for the tow - well it was towed. But the Sensor and labor is an issue. I'd ask nicely for some relief. If they Balk Tell them you will have the 2nd shop remove the sensor and you will return it back to them for $400 (It's been installed but not used - they can re sell it - it's THEIR mistake/issue. I'd also insist at least of 50% refund on the labor. I'd stand firm and if they do not give you some decent relief I'd let them know that the Internet can and will cost them a lot more in lost business in the long run.

Not sure - perhaps others with more ECM knowledge can jump in .... Perhaps the ECM will not send spark if the position sensors are way out?? If so it would be a good reason they should have done a quick compression test - at least to confirm a major issue - and also to confirm the engine is worthy of the $$'s to be spent.

I had an oldie - 74 GM small block 400 - that, in summary, jumped the sprocket. IT was VERY noticible that it cranked over WAY too easy ...


Once the Engine is out perhaps the 2nd shop can give more info to help you in your refund with the 1st shop. Be sure to tell the first shop if all fails - small claims court (in Canada what's it called?) is often for satisfaction not just for $'s .

Don't want to tell you what I think of the first shop .....

Best of luck!!

 

Can't agree more not to mention I had to call them like 10 times then show up there take time off work to go and push them to find the problem I need my truck I work construction keep all my tools on my truck been riding my bike to work can't carry much on it lol but ya when I took it they didn't even as much as put it together I was passed my bro towed me around the corner with his crv with a chain.

 

Pissed** thankfully the new shop was like right around the corner didn't have to pay for another tow to

 

After a little "googling", seems like it's most likely an interference engine. Strange that the chain would be a problem with less than 200k on the clock??

 

I just read the same thing. Appears it is a interference engine. But should be good till 200k+. Looks like the guides for the chain wear out before the chain breaks and you should have heard noise coming from it.

 

190 on it never hurd shit that's what made me wonder truck sounded mint

 

190k miles or Km's?

 

190k Kilometers (=approx 118 K Miles).


Also since I have a 2012 I4 2.7 I'd be interested if someone has a link to source that definitively show if it is a interference engine. I'm searching but can't find one yet. I Though it was not an interference engine - now I want to be sure ...

 

190 km

 

could be a bad headgasket causing no compression. i bet the chain didnt break. i would ask them to remove the valve cover and show you the chain is broken. only takes a few minutes and then you will know for sure.

 

Toyota fan faith returned faith in humanity lost.... thank you everybody for all your help but it was at the mechanic shop today found out by pulling the fuel line that the fuel would not even ignite turns out that I have water in my fuel some ass wipe degenerate mother fucker put water in my tank.. don't know why have no enemy's don't know but again thanks and had nothing to do with my Yoda she was poisoned back in love again =)=)

 

the fuk!

That blows. Are you still going to approach the first shop about replacing parts that weren't bad?

Also I'd check with the gas station you last bought fuel from. It might have been from there.

Bad tank filler seal or something.

Edit: also happy it turned out to be minor compared to a whole new engine...

 

Way to much water like we are talking half and half I put the fuel on a rag and it would not light.. fuck the first shop don't even worry about that.. =)=) and ya not as bad as a deal altogether now bc clean the tank and shit still not cheep..

 

BOTH of these shops should know whether or not that engine has compression before talking about replacing it. Bad fuel !=0 compression. Wow.

 

WTF? How can these shops even stay in business? 2 shops with absolute idiot technicians? I would never go back to either one of them and you damn sure better get your money back from shop #1.

 

No the second shop priced the engine on my say they stoped it and called me in when they found spark

 

Exactly! I can tell by the sound of the cranking if a motor has compression. Good compression goes rur__rur__rur__rur... No compression goes whrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. 1 dead hole goes rur__rur__whr__rur__rur__rur__whr...