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Help with lift

Discussion in 'HeadStrong Off-Road' started by presta24, Sep 21, 2016.

  1. Sep 21, 2016 at 6:05 PM
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    presta24

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    Looking to lift my '14 taco. I know I want 5100s up front with 887s. Not real clear on which AAL I will need or if I will need to replace the rear shocks if I add the AAL. Also, I want to keep the lift at 2.5" in the front for now. I will get new UCA's and take it to 3" when its time for tires.Will the 887s work at 2.5 for now and then I can adjust the 5100s to 3" when I cant the UCAs?
     
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  2. Sep 22, 2016 at 11:50 AM
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    Good morning Chris,

    It is always hard to say exactly how much lift you will gain from any one coil because so many factors come into play like condition of the factory components, trim of truck, and any add-ons or additional options you may have. With that being said the OME 887 coils will provide approx. 3" of lift on a stock 2005-2015 double cab 4x4. Since you have a manual transmission your truck is lighter so you may see around 1/4"-1/2" more lift from the coils then what is spec'd out below. The specifications are from the coils on their own with the Bilsteins being set at the zero setting.

    I have included a list of coil specification below so you can compare them side-by-side. A 5mm difference in length equates to approx. 1/2” difference in lift.


    OME 883 coils 590 lbs spring rate 375 mm in length (approx. 1” of lift on an 05-15 double cab 4x4)
    OME 884 coils 590 lbs spring rate 390 mm in length (approx. 2” of lift on an 05-15 double cab 4x4)
    OME 885 Coils 590 lbs spring rate 395 mm in length (approx. 2.5” of lift on an 05-15 double cab 4x4)
    OME 886 coils 660 lb spring rate 402 mm in length (approx. 2.5” of lift on an 05-15 double cab 4x4 running an additional 200lbs+ of up front weight)
    OME 887 coils 590 spring rate 400 mm in length (approx. 3” of lift on an 05-15 double cab 4x4)

    The rule of thumb on the uca’s is the closer you get over the 2.5” lift mark toward 3” of lift the more necessary they become in order to get your truck back into alignment. So at 2” you are typically fine not running them, at 2.5” you are on the cusp of whether they are needed or not, and at 3” you pretty much need them.

    I find it helpful to provide my customers with this comparison of the add-a-leafs so you can narrow down which one you feel would best suit your needs:

    The single AAL is both thicker and arched more than the initial leaf in the 3 leaf AAL. Though the 3 leaf AAL has more steel overall, the first leaf in the mini pack does not engage as quickly as the single AAL does. In fact the single AAL is arched to a point where it re-arches the existing factory packs upon assembly and thus engages immediately. The 3 leaf AAL has less arch and complies with the arch of the factory packs. So although the first leaf in the 3 leaf AAL will provide some support with the smaller bumps, it won’t provide as much as the single AAL will, which translates to a slightly stiffer on-road ride. And as far as the 2nd and 3rd leafs in the 3 leaf AAL, these will only come into play until the factory packs are flexed far enough to engage them. This will happen more so over the bigger bumps or when off-roading. The single leaf provides approx. 1.5"-2" of lift and the 3-leaf provides approx. 1.5" of lift with the factory overload removed and approx. 2" with it retained. Now the performance and capabilities of any of the add-a-leafs still do rely on the factory leaf pack and its capabilities and wareability.

    It is recommended to run at least the Bilstein 5100 standard length rear shocks with the add-a-leafs so you can gain a little bit more from the suspension.

    Please let me know if there is anything else that I can assist you with.


    Thank you so much.
     
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  3. Sep 23, 2016 at 6:23 AM
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    Thanks for all the info! So if I am reading this correctly, if I want 2.5" lift now I should get the 885s and in the future if I want 3" I will have to replace the springs with 887s?
     
  4. Sep 23, 2016 at 6:29 AM
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    Just my .02 cents..wait til you have the funds or the time is right for new tires. Buy once, cry once..also rip part once and do it right the first time.

    As someone that's ripped their rear suspension apart 3 times and Marie being there for me each time (thanks Marie), get it all done one time..
     
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  5. Sep 23, 2016 at 9:40 AM
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  6. Sep 23, 2016 at 10:32 AM
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    The shock you have is an eye/eye the 2nd gen Tacomas take a stem/eye rear shock.
     
  7. Sep 23, 2016 at 12:19 PM
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    I bought the converter mounts so they would work with my 4runner, so I should be able to mount them, just a question of if they will function for the taco.
     
  8. Sep 23, 2016 at 12:22 PM
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    That is not something I have test fit here so I can't say for sure. It will alter the extended and collapsed lengths so it is good to fully cycle the suspension to see how it all operates.
     

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